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  • Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
    Agree. That's what they may be thinking. Keep Nicks and hope he stays healthy, see Randle become the player they where so happy o draft, and get JJ on the field.
    Let me first say, if I had to choose, I am choosing Nicks. But if you think Randle is going to become a bigtime outside threat kind of like Nicks. Wouldn't Cruz be the guy to keep? I mean we've seen what Cruz and Nicks can do when on the field together. So if Randle can replace Nicks, why not keep Cruz.
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    • Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
      Let me first say, if I had to choose, I am choosing Nicks. But if you think Randle is going to become a bigtime outside threat kind of like Nicks. Wouldn't Cruz be the guy to keep? I mean we've seen what Cruz and Nicks can do when on the field together. So if Randle can replace Nicks, why not keep Cruz.
      Dominant outside threats are harder to come by than slot WR's.

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      • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
        As I have been saying, Nicks is more valuable to this offense than the slot guy is.

        Slot guys are almost plug and play in this system and you can get a 900+ yard guy.

        The outside receiver that forces double teams and STILL gets open? Incredibly hard to find.

        Originally posted by Drez View Post
        Even past getting open when doubled, Nicks can still make the play when covered​.
        Originally posted by jomo View Post
        Yes he can.
        And that's been my point when I say that Cruz just isn't top dollar material. I'm not saying he's not capable of doing it, because he's shown us that he c an make catches in traffic. But it's not who he is and it's not something you can rely on him for. Back shoulder to Nicks all day any day. Shield off the defender with his body and making the touch catch - Nicks all day. There's a reason why slot guys are paid less.

        What bothers me though is that Nicks has issues staying healthy. Not to say he's injury prone, but he's always got something going on hampering his production.

        Interesting thought - I think Cruz/Randle duo would be better than Nicks/Randle. If Randle really is a Nicks clone, then we would have 2 WRs bring the same thing to the table. Nicks isn't exact a burner.
        http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
        http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
        http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

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        • Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
          Agree. That's what they may be thinking. Keep Nicks and hope he stays healthy, see Randle become the player they where so happy o draft, and get JJ on the field.
          I think they want to keep both Nicks and Cruz, but understand that Nicks is the more impactful player. So as Mr. Mara said (or was it JR..can't remember) They aren't going to break the bank for Cruz. That doesn't mean they don't value him. It just means that Nicks is a higher priority.
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            I think we have a pretty good idea though that he has a very high floor.
            The question is really can Nicks play an entire season?
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            • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
              The question is really can Nicks play an entire season?
              I think he can if there is proper rest for his body this offseason and we don't rush anything with him like we did last season. I'm obviously talking from hindsight but we should have trusted our depth instead of putting out a hobbled Nicks who failed to create much separation in his situation.

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              • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                The question is really can Nicks play an entire season?
                Can he? Of course.
                Will he? That's a different question. But that question is answered the same way for every NFL player.
                He's missed 9 games in 4 seasons. Its not as bad as some suggest. He's had these damned ankle and foot problems. But even with the missed games, he's been a tremendously impactful player. He's a top 5 WR in this league.
                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                  I think they want to keep both Nicks and Cruz, but understand that Nicks is the more impactful player. So as Mr. Mara said (or was it JR..can't remember) They aren't going to break the bank for Cruz. That doesn't mean they don't value him. It just means that Nicks is a higher priority.
                  Yeah well they did use a 1st round pick on Nicks. Also, when healthy, he is a game changer.

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                  • Watching how physical Bolden was last night, really reminded me of Nicks, and how important he is.
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                    • Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                      Yeah well they did use a 1st round pick on Nicks. Also, when healthy, he is a game changer.
                      I'm not trying to be overly argumentative here, but what does his draft position have to do with anything?
                      Should we have given Aaron Ross a huge deal because he was a 1st round pick? Should we discard Victor Cruz with his 2600 yards the past 2 years without any contract offer because he was undrafted?
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                      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        I'm not trying to be overly argumentative here, but what does his draft position have to do with anything?Should we have given Aaron Ross a huge deal because he was a 1st round pick? Should we discard Victor Cruz with his 2600 yards the past 2 years without any contract offer because he was undrafted?
                        Ross was never that good though. He never played to where he was drafted. Of course whatbCruz has done is great and they won't just discard it. Just saying, Nicks was their first round pick and a game changer. Also, he still has a year and coming off injury they may be able to lock him up a little cheaper right now.

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                        • Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
                          Watching how physical Bolden was last night, really reminded me of Nicks, and how important he is.
                          There's a reason why most of the top paid receivers are physical.
                          http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
                          http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
                          http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

                          Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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                          • Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                            Ross was never that good though. He never played to where he was drafted. Of course whatbCruz has done is great and they won't just discard it. Just saying, Nicks was their first round pick and a game changer. Also, he still has a year and coming off injury they may be able to lock him up a little cheaper right now.
                            But draft status means nothing once a player is established in the league.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
                              There's a reason why most of the top paid receivers are physical.
                              Bolden was the guys Nicks was most compared to when he was a prospect.
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                              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                                But draft status means nothing once a player is established in the league.
                                True, but all things being even he was their 1st pick. Both have been great for them and both wan to get paid. Honestly, I think Nicks would be harder to replace.

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