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  • Why are you posting this like an Edgar Allen Poe poem?

    If Cruz stays the way of Big Blue
    Twould be so glorious,
    With Nicks Eli and Randle
    We shall be victorious,

    Seriously though, Cruz deserves money more then Nicks and anyone else on this team for his performances that past 2 seasons. Pay the man. He is a special talent in the slot.
    WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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    • Originally posted by Martin View Post
      Hey I would love for him to be a long term Giant BUT
      a player is one injury away from being retired in this league.

      The only way I see Victor Cruz as a long term Giant is he
      decides to take a lot less money.

      Meaning he really wants to be a Giant but his agent is
      gonna push the envelope like they all do.

      I would be very surprised to see him a Giant and I don't
      blame him at all for going after a huge pay day.

      This is what the league is and it's his time and I would
      do the exact same thing as probably many of you would too.

      Be realistic it is what it is! $$$$

      If it were loyalty the Giants would have kept Bradshaw !
      Loyalty is not gonna keep Victor Cruz.

      Don't be surprised if he's gone.

      All sane or insane comments welcome!! : )
      What's a "lot less money"? What is he asking for? You think they should have kept Bradshaw out of loyalty?
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
        I'm not so sure... he still seems to be a down to earth person. He already said he's not going to hold out no matter what his contract situation is, and in fact he lets his agent do all the contract talking and is hands off. Cruz himself didn't say he wanted the 10 mil, that was his agent talking.

        Methinks he could use a new agent.
        Sounds like he needs to do something about his Agent as most people are not going to differentiate between what a player is saying and what his agent is saying. Football more than any other sport has immense endorsement and marketing deals that can be extremely lucrative if you play your cards right. Victor will have a very comfortable life if he just goes along and remains the good guy that everyone wants to root for. He does not need Joe Flacco's agent.

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        • Originally posted by Martin View Post
          Hey I would love for him to be a long term Giant BUT
          a player is one injury away from being retired in this league.

          The only way I see Victor Cruz as a long term Giant is he
          decides to take a lot less money.

          Meaning he really wants to be a Giant but his agent is
          gonna push the envelope like they all do.

          I would be very surprised to see him a Giant and I don't
          blame him at all for going after a huge pay day.

          This is what the league is and it's his time and I would
          do the exact same thing as probably many of you would too.

          Be realistic it is what it is! $$$$

          If it were loyalty the Giants would have kept Bradshaw !
          Loyalty is not gonna keep Victor Cruz.

          Don't be surprised if he's gone.

          All sane or insane comments welcome!! : )
          injury plays no factor with a player who isnt injury prone or coming off an injury
          If Cruz really wants to be a Giants he should take a lot less money?? wrong. He may take a "little" less
          Loyalty has nothing to do with CRuz or Bradshaw
          "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
          You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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          • list of top 10 WR where does Cruz fit money wise.

            1. Vincent Jackson, Buccaneers – 11,000,000
            2. Dwayne Bowe, Chiefs – 9,515,000
            3. Wes Welker, Patriots – 9,515,000
            4. Brandon Marshall, Bears – 9,300,000
            5. Santonio Holmes, Jets – 7,750,000
            6. Sidney Rice, Seahawks – $,7,000,000
            7. Anquan Boldin, Ravens – $6,000,000
            8. Roddy White, Falcons – 5,500,000
            9. Darius Heyward-Bey – $5,279,000
            10. Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals – $5,000,000

            Most Notable WRs not on the list: Greg Jennings ($3.89 million in 2012), Calvin Johnson ($1.25 million in 2012), and Andre Johnson ($700,000 in 2012).
            Bill Loyal to the NYG logo

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            • I'm just getting the impression we may see a move to a high powered, high scoring offense. I think we will see more vets being released to make space for the skill players. They may have a lot more confidence in the younger linemen, than we know. Maybe they have a line on good draft picks to fix our LB corps and supplement the OL. I think Cruz will get a fair raise and stay. As will Bennett. Then again, he may be gone tomorrow. What the he// do I know. hahaha
              # 80 (For FBomb)

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              • Originally posted by GiantRoc View Post
                I'm just getting the impression we may see a move to a high powered, high scoring offense. I think we will see more vets being released to make space for the skill players. They may have a lot more confidence in the younger linemen, than we know. Maybe they have a line on good draft picks to fix our LB corps and supplement the OL. I think Cruz will get a fair raise and stay. As will Bennett. Then again, he may be gone tomorrow. What the he// do I know. hahaha
                You could be right, but in order to do that, you still need a potent running game and a defense that keeps the other guys off the field.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • Originally posted by GiantRoc View Post
                  I'm just getting the impression we may see a move to a high powered, high scoring offense.
                  The Giants already run one, or at least try to.

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                  • where does it say calvin johnson only made $1.25 mill for 2012? i want to see proof because i dont believe you.

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                    • Originally posted by Mr. G-Man View Post
                      where does it say calvin johnson only made $1.25 mill for 2012? i want to see proof because i dont believe you.
                      That's what he made in 2012 but he still had an $11.5 cap hit from bonuses. The highest cap hit for him will be in 2016 when he costs the Lions 23 mil in cap room. It's the price you pay for someone who can potentially be the GOAT at his position.

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                      • Realistic? Realistic is you need two stud WR's to win in this league. Nicks year long injuries highlight that fact. Cruz is great in the slot, and on intermediate and long routes. Pay the man.

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                        • Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
                          That's what he made in 2012 but he still had an $11.5 cap hit from bonuses. The highest cap hit for him will be in 2016 when he costs the Lions 23 mil in cap room. It's the price you pay for someone who can potentially be the GOAT at his position.
                          im not trying to ruffle your feathers, but can you link me to the information you're posting? i just can't see how that can be

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                          • Originally posted by Mr. G-Man View Post
                            im not trying to ruffle your feathers, but can you link me to the information you're posting? i just can't see how that can be
                            http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-l...alvin-johnson/

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                            • Calvin has 50 or so guaranteed, but yes, he only "earned" $1.25 in the season just gone.

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                              • its funny the way they play with the numbers to structure a contract

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