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  • A good receiver is a good receiver but no team will make it with just one good wr like a lot of you make it seem.

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    • Originally posted by Diamondring View Post
      A good receiver is a good receiver but no team will make it with just one good wr like a lot of you make it seem.
      Most teams make do with one "star" WR though.

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      • Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
        Most teams make do with one "star" WR though.
        Not with just one good receiver. Star receiver what the heck?

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        • Originally posted by Diamondring View Post
          Not with just one good receiver. Star receiver what the heck?
          Well how do you define "good"? How many teams have bad receivers?

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          • Originally posted by ozzie0075 View Post
            Not worried at all the Giants are clearing space to make sure both will be in blue for awhile. Anytime there are contract negotiations there is going to be some back and forth.
            Exactly. You just have to have patience and let the situation work itself out. The front office will point out areas where Cruz is weak and try to low ball him. His agent will point out areas where he is strong and high ball the Giants. Eventually they will compromise, meet in the middle and get something done that benefits both sides with no hard feelings. All this reporting is usually just speculation or tactics. I think this season Cruz will still be a Giant.

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            • Loyalty only goes so far in a business. Guys put their bodies on the line and expect compensation. If they can get the most that is offered then it is in their best interests to take it. Loyalty is usually not loyalty in a sense that they are their for the organization or team but for what are their best chances to win a championship and raise their value. That is why so many players want to renegotiate contracts after Super Bowl wins or statistically superior seasons.

              I don't blame any player for taking the money and running. Just say good things about your team and move on.

              All that being said, no one but the Giants, Cruz and his agents know what has been offered. But, look at recent events and cuts and I think that besides the fact the Giants need to have money to sign rookies this year, the other reason Reese is cutting salary like a mad man is to be able to sign Cruz. Like I said in another thread....I would be surprised if you see Cruz in anything other than a Giants' uniform this year.
              Last edited by Rat_bastich; 02-08-2013, 04:23 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                Well how do you define "good"? How many teams have bad receivers?
                A good receiver Cruz, bad receiver right now, Braylon Edwards. Look at productions from last year.

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                • Originally posted by JJC7301 View Post
                  I want to keep either Cruz or Nicks, but not both because it'll be too much money wrapped up at WR. Nicks is the better receiver, but gets injured to easily.

                  I'd love to keep both, but not with a cap because money needs to be spent elsewhere as well.
                  The team and Eli are better with both Nicks and Cruz on the field. I think they get them both, back loading one of them
                  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                  • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    So Cruz puts a massive contract on the table. Then walks away and says they will agree to it eventually when they get desperate enough?

                    Yea. He is getting tendered this year and walking away next year.

                    Reese puts a value on guys and doesn't over pay them. Sorry Cruz.
                    U cant pay a slot receiver 10 million no matter how explosive he is. Draft Stedman Bailey from WV he will give the Giants similar production on a rookie deal. I think they can almost plug and play a slot receiver in this offense.

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                    • Seriously, wouldn't it be better to just delete entire threads than just mashing them together?

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                      • Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                        Seriously, wouldn't it be better to just delete entire threads than just mashing them together?
                        I think so. Should put a stop to duplicates immediately

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                        • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                          U cant pay a slot receiver 10 million no matter how explosive he is. Draft Stedman Bailey from WV he will give the Giants similar production on a rookie deal. I think they can almost plug and play a slot receiver in this offense.
                          I agree.. As much as i love Victor Cruz, i think alot of his skills and production hinder on our Oline and ELI"s arm.. Meaning, u put a solid WR on this offense, theres a chance hes gonna do very well, being we got a pocket passing QB and usually a solid pass blocking Oline..

                          Theres plenty of WR's out tehre, that could run a solid slot for us, while we put Rueben Randle on the outside along with Nicks... Robert Woods perhaps?

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                          • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            Massive contract? Where do you read that?
                            You have a link in your very own thread with the headline "CRUZ WANTS BIG RAISE"! What does that mean if not a big contract extension?
                            BIG RAISE sure as hell doesn't mean home team discount!
                            "I'M ALL FOR IT!"

                            John McKay, HC of the 1976 winless TB Buccaneers, when asked by a reporter, how McKay felt, about the execution of his offense.

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                            • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                              And what makes you think that Nicks will have the litany of issues he had this year next?
                              There's no way of knowing with any certainty, however history would suggest he might miss a game or two
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • Don't forget about JJ. He was just drafted 2 seasons ago. Maybe they see him a replacement should Cruz leave.

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