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  • Compensatory Picks for 2013?

    Hey guys, I was checking out the mock draft section and one poster mentioned a comp pick for the loss of A.Ross. That got me thinking about this subject because my knee-jerk reaction was that we probably wouldn't receive any this year due to a couple factors...

    Here's how it looks

    Lost:
    Aaron Ross - signed 3 year / 15 mil contract; but only started 9 games
    Mario Manningham - signed 2 year / 10 mil contract; started 10 games
    Jon Goff - signed 1 year minimum deal; IR before season started

    Gained:
    Martellus Bennett - signed 1 year / 1.8 mil contract; started 16 games
    Stevie Brown - claimed off waivers / minimum deal; started 11 games
    Sean Locklear - signed 1 year / vet minimum deal; started 10 games credit to shane4177

    So, is it within reason that we receive a comp pick? Maybe. If we do I don't expect it being higher than a 6th, but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't get one at all. If anyone can think of a free agent that we picked up other than Brown and Bennett let me know.

    By the way, the NFL determines comp picks based on an inequity of free agents lost vs. gained, but contract value and playing time are heavily considered in the decision. Some kind of elaborate equation is used.
    Last edited by PBTimmons; 02-14-2013, 09:54 AM.

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    Sean Locklear OT

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    • #3
      I think they may get a 5th or 6th. Possibly something like two 6ths

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      • #4
        Edited to include Sean Locklear

        Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
        I think they may get a 5th or 6th. Possibly something like two 6ths
        Slip, but just looking at the deals and how it played out this year, it doesn't look like we were any worse off. Which to my understanding is the idea. In other words, how do you justify us getting two 6th round comp picks?

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        • #5
          Does the Jacobs signing not count?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RagTime Blue View Post
            Does the Jacobs signing not count?
            I figure it doesn't because we cut him.

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            • #7
              Regarding Jacobs, everyone on MBoards was up-in-arms because we didn't go $500k higher to match SF49r's offer about a year ago this time.

              He was a FA and took the best deal he could get. The fact that he didn't play much is another matter, but his salary was not peanuts.

              Besides, if we got Stevie Brown off waivers, he must've been released by somebody. He was factored in your calculations.
              Last edited by RagTime Blue; 02-14-2013, 10:37 AM.

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              • #8
                I thought you get compensation the same year,say for instance if we were to lose Phillips and Beatty,dont we receive compensation in this year's draft

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                • #9
                  No, it's all based on the year prior. Although the big names are signed, FA doesn't end until right up to training camp and even later.

                  Besides, performance counts to some degree, and you can't calculate that until after they've played a year with their new teams.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RagTime Blue View Post
                    No, it's all based on the year prior. Although the big names are signed, FA doesn't end until right up to training camp and even later.

                    Besides, performance counts to some degree, and you can't calculate that until after they've played a year with their new teams.
                    Yeah ur right I just read about it,so what are we looking at this year

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cornerback30 View Post
                      I thought you get compensation the same year,say for instance if we were to lose Phillips and Beatty,dont we receive compensation in this year's draft
                      No, it's calculated for the following year's draft. We got an extra 4th in 2012 draft because prior to 2011 season we lost SS12, Boss Cofield, Michael Johnson, and Jerris Wilkinson to other teams (though SS12 Boss and Cofield were the only ones that played in any real capacity for any part of the season)

                      I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PBTimmons View Post
                        Edited to include Sean Locklear



                        Slip, but just looking at the deals and how it played out this year, it doesn't look like we were any worse off. Which to my understanding is the idea. In other words, how do you justify us getting two 6th round comp picks?
                        Contracts factor in more than playing time.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cornerback30 View Post
                          Yeah ur right I just read about it,so what are we looking at this year
                          According to Slip, a 6th or a 7th or two.

                          That Manningham contract was huge, though, and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw something slightly better.

                          I don't personally think it matters all that much since Reese has been equally successful in the 4th and 7th rounds in finding talent that contributes.

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                          • #14
                            So based off of all the info above do we get one or not??? LOL...

                            Can anyone way in on this matter with some type of link to prove how it works and what we actually have coming? or not coming because of whatever reason?
                            Football has been very, very good to us.
                            After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                            But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                            # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                            1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                            2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                            3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                            4-New York Giants!!!
                            5-NE
                            Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                            ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cornerback30 View Post
                              I thought you get compensation the same year,say for instance if we were to lose Phillips and Beatty,dont we receive compensation in this year's draft
                              Nope, because impact for a team is considered so if we lose kenny we will receive more consideration if he plays 16 games with his new team. Less consideration if he ends up on IR before this coming season starts.

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