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  • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    OK Buffy...You have been saying this thing about Rodgers for a while and you have to be called out. I get that he's our QB and all of that, but to say that Eli is far better than Rodgers in the post season is ridiculous.Aaron Rodgers offense in the playoffs have averaged 30.1PPG. Eli's offense in the playoffs have averaged 19.8/PPGAaron Rodgers has 18 TD's and 5 Ints in the playoffs, Eli has 17 TD's and 8 Int's.Aaron Rodgers Compl % in the playoffs is 66.1%, Eli's is 61.5%Aaron Rodgers has averaged 289 yds/game in the playoffs, Eli has averaged 229 yds/gameThe BIG difference between the 2? The Giants defense has given up 17 PPG in Eli's playoff games. The GB defense has given up 27.4 PPG in AR's playoff games.If the Giants had given up 27 points in every one of Eli's playoff games, he would be 1-10 in the playoffs.If Aaron Rodgers defenses had given up 17 points in every game..He'd be 8-0.Eli had a great run in 2 playoffs and has been an outstanding post season QB, but Rodgers has been friggin lights out. Unfortunately, poor defenses have been his undoing.
    Notice how you leave out the most important statistic, Eli Manning has two SuperBowl MVPs and led NY Giants to two SuperBowl victories while Aaron Rodgers has led his team to one.Eli Manning and NY Giants were The Best defense on the field in SuperBowl XLVI when they controlled TOP for 38 minutes.If Green Bays defense doesn't come up big with strip of Mendenhall late in the game, they most probably lose.VDC, you can quote stats and pick and choose whichever ones you would for your anti Eli campaign but the fact is that Eli onthe SuperBowl runs is more calm and collected than Aaron has ever been. Eli has won it twice and Aaron has only been able to win it once. That is the most imortant stat there is.

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    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
      And both sets of WR's played outstanding in both playoff runs. Lets make sure that is said as well. Plaxico had one of the greatest games in playoff history. He abused Al Harris.
      What has Plexiglass done since with other QBs throwing to him?

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      • Your first mistake was turning on Colin Cowturd, you compounded that error by listening to Herm Edwards - a decent player in his day but not a very bright guy.

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        • Originally posted by FBomb View Post
          Here's where the problem with you begins. You tend to lump ANYONE who dares to defend Eli or calls out a commentator for what they consider unfair or insulting remarks against him into the same category.....and then you overstate your point by saying things like "If you dare to suggest that our QB is not an all time great, there are a group of posters here that will call you every name in the book. They will attack like a wild mob." This simply is not true on any level. It's in your head..we've talked about this.....you snapped a while back and now EVERY disagreement anyone has with you about Eli comes to this. No one is saying that Eli is the greatest QB ever, but there is a legit argument that he may be the best QB the Giants have ever had.....and no one is calling you anything......other than myself, as I am calling you obessive about this subject. You don't let anyone get away with defending Eli....EVER.

          Giants fans SHOULD defend Eli against silly, insulting and unfair comments.
          Define "defend".
          Is it stating that you disagree and here's why?
          Or is it......This guy was a lousy coach and a jaggoff so don't listen to anything he says about anything dealing with football.

          Its not about defending Eli. Its about the notion that if you don't place Eli on a pedestal, there is something wrong with you.

          And I'll will make a deal with you...I'll continue to call this attitude out where I see it, because I think its beneath Giants fans, and you can continue to tell me what's wrong with me.

          its a win/win situation really.
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            OK Buffy...You have been saying this thing about Rodgers for a while and you have to be called out. I get that he's our QB and all of that, but to say that Eli is far better than Rodgers in the post season is ridiculous.

            Aaron Rodgers offense in the playoffs have averaged 30.1PPG. Eli's offense in the playoffs have averaged 19.8/PPG
            Aaron Rodgers has 18 TD's and 5 Ints in the playoffs, Eli has 17 TD's and 8 Int's.
            Aaron Rodgers Compl % in the playoffs is 66.1%, Eli's is 61.5%
            Aaron Rodgers has averaged 289 yds/game in the playoffs, Eli has averaged 229 yds/game

            The BIG difference between the 2? The Giants defense has given up 17 PPG in Eli's playoff games. The GB defense has given up 27.4 PPG in AR's playoff games.

            If the Giants had given up 27 points in every one of Eli's playoff games, he would be 1-10 in the playoffs.
            If Aaron Rodgers defenses had given up 17 points in every game..He'd be 8-0.

            Eli had a great run in 2 playoffs and has been an outstanding post season QB, but Rodgers has been friggin lights out. Unfortunately, poor defenses have been his undoing.
            You are what your SB MVP's and SB Trophies say you are. Sorry but your analysis is sophmoric.

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            • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
              What has Plexiglass done since with other QBs throwing to him?
              Sat in jail.
              You didn't know this?
              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              • Originally posted by TroyArcher View Post
                You are what your SB MVP's and SB Trophies say you are. Sorry but your analysis is sophmoric.
                Did I get the facts wrong? Where have I erred?
                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                  Define "defend".
                  Is it stating that you disagree and here's why?
                  Or is it......This guy was a lousy coach and a jaggoff so don't listen to anything he says about anything dealing with football.

                  Its not about defending Eli. Its about the notion that if you don't place Eli on a pedestal, there is something wrong with you.

                  And I'll will make a deal with you...I'll continue to call this attitude out where I see it, because I think its beneath Giants fans, and you can continue to tell me what's wrong with me.

                  its a win/win situation really.
                  Fair enough....you continue to over react to Giants fans not living up to your standards and I will just continue to read less and less of your posts. Your obsession with this is why threads like these go on and on and on.

                  Beneath them? Really? That's absurd!!
                  I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                  • Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                    Fair enough....you continue to over react to Giants fans not living up to your standards and I will just continue to read less and less of your posts. Your obsession with this is why threads like these go on and on and on.

                    Beneath them? Really? It's absurd.
                    As i said..my life was a lot easier here when I went with the flow for all those years.
                    Well certain things piss me off, so I point it out. Like you don't do that. And agree or disagree, Ive ALWAYS defended you as a thoughtful poster. Too bad I'm not getting the same from you.
                    Last edited by Morehead State; 02-17-2013, 01:31 PM.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      As i said..my life was a lot easier here when I went with the flow for all those years.
                      Well certain things piss me off, so I point it out. Like you don't do that.
                      Well...nothing here will "piss me off"....but I do like to point out ridiculous behavior. Case in point.

                      It's strictly for comedic value.
                      Last edited by FBomb; 02-17-2013, 01:34 PM.
                      I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        Did I get the facts wrong? Where have I erred?
                        You can't say that Eli only scored so many points less than Rodgers so that makes Rodgers a better post season QB. Eli scored enough to get the Giants Two SB trophies, Rodgers has done it once. Is Rodgers a better all around QB? IMO - YES, that does not make him a better post season QB. That belongs to Eli as of today.

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                        • About every 3-4 weeks...Somebody, somewhere says something bad about Eli. ..and as sure as the sun rises every morning, TAGF will be raging with an endless thread this is Eli's army it seems

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                          • Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
                            About every 3-4 weeks...Somebody, somewhere says something bad about Eli. ..and as sure as the sun rises every morning, TAGF will be raging with an endless thread this is Eli's army it seems
                            Eli is OUR 2 time SB MVP.....it SHOULD be that way.
                            I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                            • I love it, it's like nobody can hide from us. U talk bad about our guy, u get served GMB style

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                              • Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
                                I love it, it's like nobody can hide from us. U talk bad about our guy, u get served GMB style
                                WE are the only ones that can call Eli a dork.
                                I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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