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  • Realistically, how much could we have Webster restructure to?

    Webster currently counts $9,845,000 against the salary cap.. nearly $10 million (According to Ralph Vacchiano)


    I'd imagine the Giants are trying to force his hand to have him restructure or they're going to cut him.
    Last edited by NYG4lifeNYK; 02-16-2013, 05:54 PM.
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    The Giants still need more salary cap room. So who’s the next cut? Here are the Giants w/the biggest cap #s in '13:
    (Note: These numbers are what each player counts against the salary cap. It is NOT the amount the Giants would save by cutting each of the players listed below. That amount would be less … in some cases significantly less):

    1.QB Eli Manning $20,850,000

    2.G Chris Snee $11,000,000

    3.CB Corey Webster $9,845,000

    4.S Antrel Rolle $9,250,000

    5.T David Diehl $6,903,125

    6.C David Baas $6,725,000

    7.DE Justin Tuck $6,150,000

    8.LB Mathias Kiwanuka $5,125,000

    9.WR Hakeem Nicks $3,755,000

    10.DE Jason Pierre-Paul $2,825,000


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    • #3
      funny thing is out of that list how many of those guys if FA now would command money close to that- only nicks and JPP would get more and Eli we cant count bc he restructured last year to help us and he gets what he deserves, hes the reason we have the last two rings

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      • #4
        They won't need to force his hand, he'll do it willingly.

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        • #5
          Cant restructure him, he is in the last year of his contract.

          To clear cap room either

          A. Release him
          B. Tell him to take less money or he will be released
          C. Extend him and spread his cap hit over the next couple years

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          • #6
            Well, $2,595,000 of that is going to hit regardless of what happens. So you're starting at 7mil of his base which you get all of that back if released. Can't tell you how much of that they're trying to shed, but if I had to guess based on low end starting CB salaries, they may be trying to chop 3-4mil off that base. I think Webster can earn $3mil in FA.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
              Cant restructure him, he is in the last year of his contract.

              To clear cap room either

              A. Release him
              B. Tell him to take less money or he will be released
              C. Extend him and spread his cap hit over the next couple years
              Sorry didn't mean to say restructure. Even if he weren't in his final year that's not the type of player you restructure when there are questions of declining.

              Originally posted by penguinfarmer View Post
              Well, $2,595,000 of that is going to hit regardless of what happens. So you're starting at 7mil of his base which you get all of that back if released. Can't tell you how much of that they're trying to shed, but if I had to guess based on low end starting CB salaries, they may be trying to chop 3-4mil off that base. I think Webster can earn $3mil in FA.


              Yea, was thinking about the same at minimum.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                Webster currently counts $9,845,000 against the salary cap.. nearly $10 million (According to Ralph Vacchiano)


                I'd imagine the Giants are trying to force his hand to have him restructure or they're going to cut him.
                Wow I had no idea his getting almost 10m this year, thats ludicrous!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by StrahanSoup92 View Post
                  Wow I had no idea his getting almost 10m this year, thats ludicrous!
                  He isnt. He is getting paid roughly 7,250,000.

                  The 10 mil number includes his $2,595,000 prorated signing bonus that the giants are on the hook for no matter what.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    He isnt. He is getting paid roughly 7,250,000.

                    The 10 mil number includes his $2,595,000 prorated signing bonus that the giants are on the hook for no matter what.
                    Yup, I'm hoping we can get that number down to around 3.4 million instead of $2,595,000 dead money.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                      Yup, I'm hoping we can get that number down to around 3.4 million instead of $2,595,000 dead money.
                      I dont understand what you are saying.

                      How are they going to get the number down to 3.4 million?

                      You think they are going to tell webster he is only going to get paid the veteran minimum and he is going to accept that?

                      They have no way to reduce the 2.595 mil number, at all.

                      So whatever webster will make is in addition to that. The vet minimum for webster is $840k.

                      So thats $3.43 mil right there

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                        The Giants still need more salary cap room. So whos the next cut? Here are the Giants w/the biggest cap #s in '13:
                        (Note: These numbers are what each player counts against the salary cap. It is NOT the amount the Giants would save by cutting each of the players listed below. That amount would be less in some cases significantly less):

                        1.QB Eli Manning $20,850,000

                        2.G Chris Snee $11,000,000

                        3.CB Corey Webster $9,845,000

                        4.S Antrel Rolle $9,250,000

                        5.T David Diehl $6,903,125

                        6.C David Baas $6,725,000

                        7.DE Justin Tuck $6,150,000

                        8.LB Mathias Kiwanuka $5,125,000

                        9.WR Hakeem Nicks $3,755,000

                        10.DE Jason Pierre-Paul $2,825,000


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                        They need to release the two bums living off past glory, Justin Tuck and Diehl. and Baas is not a top center, he hasn't earned that salary either.

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                        • #13
                          He can't restructure since he's on the last year of his deal. The only thing they can do is ask him to take a pay cut, which may be difficult to do. Even with as poor a year as Webster had last season, as the roster currently stands the Giants have pretty much no leverage to force him to do it. We have zero depth behind him and he knows that.

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                          • #14
                            Snee, Tuck, Webster, Baas, Diehl. . .those guys are all average on their best day last year.

                            I got no problem with a guy making money, they all work hard. But if it's keeping us from getting players who could possibly play at a higher level, I support Reese's decisions to cut where we must.

                            And I guess by extension, I support his decisions to keep players I don't agree with keeping.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Drez View Post
                              He can't restructure since he's on the last year of his deal. The only thing they can do is ask him to take a pay cut, which may be difficult to do. Even with as poor a year as Webster had last season, as the roster currently stands the Giants have pretty much no leverage to force him to do it. We have zero depth behind him and he knows that.
                              The Giants have lot's of leverage. The game tape of last season. Sit Corey Toaster down and make him watch the Ravens game. Hosley, a rookie, is up against Boldin and Flacco still victimized Webster like a polar bear ripping apart a seal.
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