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  • #31
    Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
    People keep saying CInci but they have a bunch of young WR talent . That cap space is misleading because by next season Geno Atkins, AJ Green , Carlos Dunlap and Andy Dalton will need new deals.
    Yet Cincy can't get over the hump and make a deep playoff run. AJ Green and (to a lesser extent) Gresham are their only real receiving threats. Adding Cruz would give them a chance to get some real production going.

    SF is brought up but next season Aldon Smith, Kaepernick,Crabtree, Iupati are all eligible for new deals. If I was SF I would rent Revis to try to win a Super Bowl. Windows can slam quickly. Justin Smith is getting older lots of younger players will need big deals they will lose depth they should go for it.
    As I said before (can't remember if it was another thread or this one), the only real DEEP receiving threat on SF is Manningham (let's face it, Moss is beyond done, no matter what he thinks). Cruz has worked with Manningham before with us. Plus, if they keep Cruz, they could straight-up let Crabtree walk and roll with an offense that works the middle of the field with Cruz and Davis more than the outsides with Manningham and Williams.

    Someone else mentioned Denver. Don't see that one happening as much because they have Demariyus Thomas and Eric Decker on hand.

    I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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    • #32
      Man that would be terrible for them to wind up with 2 of the 3 WRs that took us to the 2011 SB win
      Football has been very, very good to us.
      After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
      But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

      # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

      1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
      2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
      3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
      4-New York Giants!!!
      5-NE
      Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

      ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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      • #33
        The answer is simple.

        If Cruz were to get an offer from some other team and the giants don't match, the giants get a first round pick, then they draft Tavon Austin with it.

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        • #34
          its shows that guys in this ERA of the NFL are 80/90 percent Hired Help. Not many of them have any allegiance to the team they play for. Its all about the almighty DOLLAR. Who ever will give them more is where they will go. In the NFL I grew up in most of the guys back then would not think of playing for a RIVAL Team. IT was more like HS and College in the sense that guys were drafted and for the most part stayed with their respective teams for their whole careers. You have the Rare instances where Hall of Famers finished out in another City thinking they had something left like Montana in KC and others. (YA Title) ... But guys naturally Hated their rival teams to the ROOT.. a lot of them wouldn't jump over the enemy for any dollar amount. Today unless in the rare case that a player happens to be playing for his Childhood favorite team chances are he will jump ship for the slights pay increase.
          Football has been very, very good to us.
          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
          4-New York Giants!!!
          5-NE
          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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          • #35
            Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
            The answer is simple.

            If Cruz were to get an offer from some other team and the giants don't match, the giants get a first round pick, then they draft Tavon Austin with it.
            THERE YOU GO!!!!!
            Football has been very, very good to us.
            After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
            But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

            # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

            1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
            2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
            3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
            4-New York Giants!!!
            5-NE
            Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

            ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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            • #36
              he could be one of those break out stars that make a HUGE impact in their rookie seasons. And he would be under the Rookie Contract for 3 seasons!!! saving us HUGE CAP money
              Football has been very, very good to us.
              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
              4-New York Giants!!!
              5-NE
              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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              • #37
                Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                Steve Smith is no longer Steve Smith. Cruz is playing here in 2013.
                Anytime I get worried I just listen to Roanoke lol

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                  The answer is simple.

                  If Cruz were to get an offer from some other team and the giants don't match, the giants get a first round pick, then they draft Tavon Austin with it.
                  U like him slip?

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                  • #39
                    If we lose Cruz for some strange reason, we have to move on. We lost Plax and Steve Smith over the years, we moved on. It did look like the sky was falling both times, and then we got Nicks, and Cruz came out of nowhere. You could not even get Eli to recruit Plax in 2011, so there's always Plan B-Z and you have to believe in the players you have.

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                    • #40
                      There was a noticeable gaping hole left by MM. we never really did replace his production at that third spot and they used combos of RR, Hixon and others. I think with the right amount of playing time and more time practicing with the First team RR could be that guy to make us forget MM
                      Football has been very, very good to us.
                      After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                      But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                      # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                      1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                      2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                      3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                      4-New York Giants!!!
                      5-NE
                      Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                      ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by B-Red22 View Post
                        U like him slip?
                        I think he's a difference maker, and would fit perfectly into the giants system.

                        Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                        There was a noticeable gaping hole left by MM. we never really did replace his production at that third spot and they used combos of RR, Hixon and others. I think with the right amount of playing time and more time practicing with the First team RR could be that guy to make us forget MM
                        Bigger issue than losing MM was Nicks being hurt all year.

                        Year giants won the SB MM was a 500 yard 4 TD guy. They did replace that. Randle had 300 yards and 3 TDs. Hixon had 600 yards and 2 TDs
                        Last edited by slipknottin; 03-01-2013, 12:50 PM.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                          I think he's a difference maker, and would fit perfectly into the giants system.



                          Bigger issue than losing MM was Nicks being hurt all year.
                          True. with Nicks either out of playing at what seemed like 50 percent at times they didn't have to devote so much time to covering him when they realized he wasn't the same WR that was torching them and more of a decoy. once they realized that they were able to focus on blanketing the other WRs thus making it tougher on a rookie to shine. I think you are correct. Had Nicks been his normal self RR could of had a breakout year with Nicks drawing the double teams
                          Football has been very, very good to us.
                          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                          4-New York Giants!!!
                          5-NE
                          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                            its shows that guys in this ERA of the NFL are 80/90 percent Hired Help. Not many of them have any allegiance to the team they play for. Its all about the almighty DOLLAR. Who ever will give them more is where they will go. In the NFL I grew up in most of the guys back then would not think of playing for a RIVAL Team. IT was more like HS and College in the sense that guys were drafted and for the most part stayed with their respective teams for their whole careers. You have the Rare instances where Hall of Famers finished out in another City thinking they had something left like Montana in KC and others. (YA Title) ... But guys naturally Hated their rival teams to the ROOT.. a lot of them wouldn't jump over the enemy for any dollar amount. Today unless in the rare case that a player happens to be playing for his Childhood favorite team chances are he will jump ship for the slights pay increase.
                            That's because back in the day there was no free agency. It only came about in the very late 80s/early 90s. Rest assured if the players that you grew up watching had the opportunity to have teams bidding for their services, they would take full advantage of it. It has been about the "almighty dollar" ever since free agency has been around.
                            #80

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                            • #44
                              that's prob very true. but you just got the sense from watching them and hearing them talk about other teams that they just absolutely hated them with a passion. Id like to think you are wrong but you are prob on the money
                              Football has been very, very good to us.
                              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                              4-New York Giants!!!
                              5-NE
                              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                              • #45
                                If Cruz were to leave guess what would happen? He would leave......

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