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  • #16
    Originally posted by B&RWarrior View Post
    After how Brown performed last year when healthy, how could you not want him on the field?
    Don't be surprised if Brown doesn't start out the season getting more carries than Wilson.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #17
      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
      Don't be surprised if Brown doesn't start out the season getting more carries than Wilson.
      And that would be a foolish thing to do given Wilsons talent. Especially after seeing the success rookie runningbacks have had over the last five years. When a guy can take a simple sprint play for 60yards at any time, you give him every oppurtunity to break that run.
      All Hail The New York Giants!!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
        Are they focused on making the Defense good again because thats worse then the running game
        Originally posted by nycsportzfan View Post
        I'm fine with helping the interior of the oline and finding another RB to join the cast, as long as they add a couple defenders in the first 3-4 rds... Maybe there best bet is to grab 2 impact defenders in RD1 and 2, and then 3-5, build up the interior of the oline and find another back to compete with scott and brown.. I'm ok with that.. But we need to upgrade the defense, bigtime!
        agree with both of you. I do agree that the o-line needs some addressing, but I would be extremely disappointed if the DT and CB positions were not addressed.

        Nyc, I still would be ok with Zac Stacy in the 6th or 7th rd to compete for the 3rd or 4th RB position.

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        • #19
          Really, what the team needs is for some of it's late round OL prospects to start developing into players. Brewer, Petrus, McCants, Mosely, Cordle, Capers. We need one of these guys to develop into a legit starter, similar to Boothe. It's hard to build a well rounded team relying only on your premium draft picks and free agents, we need more of our later draft picks at the position to start panning out.

          I find it amazing how well he develope UDFA's, yet don't seem to have as many late round picks develop the same way.
          All Hail The New York Giants!!

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          • #20
            I dont understand this "mauler" thing. Giants have never used maulers on the OL. Thats not how they run the ball. They are a pull and trap team.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by TrueBlue@NYC View Post
              And that would be a foolish thing to do given Wilsons talent. Especially after seeing the success rookie runningbacks have had over the last five years. When a guy can take a simple sprint play for 60yards at any time, you give him every oppurtunity to break that run.
              It isn't just about running the ball. It has to to with knowing your blocking assignments and reading defenses as well. His breaking a run is second to keeping Eli upright.
              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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              • #22
                Originally posted by TrueBlue@NYC View Post
                Really, what the team needs is for some of it's late round OL prospects to start developing into players. Brewer, Petrus, McCants, Mosely, Cordle, Capers. We need one of these guys to develop into a legit starter, similar to Boothe. It's hard to build a well rounded team relying only on your premium draft picks and free agents, we need more of our later draft picks at the position to start panning out.

                I find it amazing how well he develope UDFA's, yet don't seem to have as many late round picks develop the same way.
                Is Petrus on the team?
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                  I dont understand this "mauler" thing. Giants have never used maulers on the OL. Thats not how they run the ball. They are a pull and trap team.
                  The best Oline we've had in a long time had Snee, Diehl, O'Hara, Suebert, and MacKenzie
                  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                    The best Oline we've had in a long time had Snee, Diehl, O'Hara, Suebert, and MacKenzie
                    Yep, none of them particularly big mauler types. The interior guys are borderline 300 pounders, while the OTs are ~310-320.

                    What they did really well was get to the second level and hit targets on the move. Seubert was a tremendous pulling guard. O'hara got to the second level well, Snee has always been a decent puller, but he is the one guy who generally was asked to get clear out blocks. and McKenzie and Diehl werent pancake the defender type guys, they just sealed guys out.

                    Beatty is probably the best run blocking LT the team has had in awhile, but the rest of the OL is aging for sure. Baas I think can be a good player, he was a wrecking ball in week 17 last year, and I think hes done a pretty good job stuffing NTs on his own.

                    LG is an area of concern for sure. Giants have very little guard depth. RT I think they could find a guy in FA, but that job probably gets handed to diehl.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                      Yep, none of them particularly big mauler types. The interior guys are borderline 300 pounders, while the OTs are ~310-320.

                      What they did really well was get to the second level and hit targets on the move. Seubert was a tremendous pulling guard. O'hara got to the second level well, Snee has always been a decent puller, but he is the one guy who generally was asked to get clear out blocks. and McKenzie and Diehl werent pancake the defender type guys, they just sealed guys out.

                      Beatty is probably the best run blocking LT the team has had in awhile, but the rest of the OL is aging for sure. Baas I think can be a good player, he was a wrecking ball in week 17 last year, and I think hes done a pretty good job stuffing NTs on his own.

                      LG is an area of concern for sure. Giants have very little guard depth. RT I think they could find a guy in FA, but that job probably gets handed to diehl.
                      They played so long together they actually knew what each was going to do without having to look. It was a very impressive unit.

                      I am glad we locked up Beatty. I hope Boothe can be landed as well. But I see the Oline as the first priority this offseason.
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jomo View Post
                        Another very weak article from Giants 101. The title speaks of making the running game a strength again then talks about keeping "Eli upright." They don't deal at all with our OL, not even a mention of its central role in making the running game work. Not a single mention that we are likely to have the same cast of characters along the OL next season who didn't get it done last year. Who are these people writing this stuff at Giants101? Do they have any sports or journalisim credentials?
                        As bad as this OLine is, they have been respectable keeping Eli upright. Eli's pocket prescence helps. But, we don't have a single OLineman who we can count on to run behind on 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2, Always stuffed at the line. So, to make the running game a strength we need at least one beast on the line.. Beatty or Boothe? Forget it... they haven't shown that beast-ability. Even a 3rd string RB can get us a 1st down with a hole. Get us that beast run blocker and that's all this O needs right now.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by zimonami View Post
                          As bad as this OLine is, they have been respectable keeping Eli upright. Eli's pocket prescence helps. But, we don't have a single OLineman who we can count on to run behind on 3rd and 1, 3rd and 2, Always stuffed at the line. So, to make the running game a strength we need at least one beast on the line.. Beatty or Boothe? Forget it... they haven't shown that beast-ability. Even a 3rd string RB can get us a 1st down with a hole. Get us that beast run blocker and that's all this O needs right now.
                          That's as clear as day to you and me Zim but not the author of this article.
                          No one remembers who came in second.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            They played so long together they actually knew what each was going to do without having to look. It was a very impressive unit.

                            I am glad we locked up Beatty. I hope Boothe can be landed as well. But I see the Oline as the first priority this offseason.
                            Signing Boothe may be safe but it leaves us with last year's unit except for Snee post surgery and heaven knows what at RT. That doesn't feel like progress to me RF..............especially for a unit that performed so poorly (in the run game) when the game was on the line.
                            No one remembers who came in second.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by jomo View Post
                              Signing Boothe may be safe but it leaves us with last year's unit except for Snee post surgery and heaven knows what at RT. That doesn't feel like progress to me RF..............especially for a unit that performed so poorly (in the run game) when the game was on the line.
                              I think we have a decent group center left, but the right side, even with Snee, need rebuilding. We need a GOOD RT and depth. I don't know if we have that in the twos and threes on the roster.

                              I think they went large for Beatty and won't do it again this season for another lineman.
                              Last edited by RoanokeFan; 03-03-2013, 12:47 PM.
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • #30
                                Not much buzz about Jake Long

                                If the Giants signed him, I'd be shocked by how much they invested in tackles.
                                My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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