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  • If we never draft another short receiver again I will die a happy man...

    Jernigan might not be a bust but he certainly isn't a difference maker. Hopefully he can do a good job on returns for us this season but outside of that...


    He can't even beat out Hixon who suffered two ACL injuries.

    Can't even beat out a rookie that doesn't know the playbook... even though Randle is going to be special

  • Shockeystays08
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    Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
    LOL im done with this kid...u have the attention span of a pet rock
    !

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by gmen46 View Post
    Well, of course. I've been too impressed with Reese and all the team's talent evaluators track record to not believe in them now.

    It's just I do find it a bit rich--getting back to the OP of this thread--that there is so much positive passion on behalf of Jernigan, unsubstantiated by very little if any performance to date, so soon after there was such vehement vitriol against Moss after his first 2 (though maybe it was after his 3rd).

    I mean, the aspects of Moss' potential that were so highly anticipated and touted by all concerned--"blazing" speed, quickness, and ability as a good returner--ultimately meant nothing. Moss could not deliver, when it was all said and done.

    The same attributes have, as it happens, been attributed to Jernigan. The disappointing results, after 2 seasons, have been eerily similar to those of Moss.

    And they're both short. So they got that going for them.
    I just don 't thin k we've seen enough of Jernigan on the field to make any statement about his long term viability

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  • Toadofsteel
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    As Roanoke said, JJ is here for the rest of his rookie contract. He's playing for minimum to be honest, so the only thing you're really freeing up by cutting him is a roster spot...

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  • jomo
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    Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
    Jernigan so far has showed me nothing to believe he can be an effective slot receiver.

    However, it won't hurt to give him another season to prove himself either.
    Yes and yes.

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  • Sovereign
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    Yeah Jernigan is a huge bust. Just like that Andre Brown guy who hasn't shown anything since 2009. Wait...

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  • B&RWarrior
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    Originally posted by giants8493 View Post
    SO no 5'8''. What if a player is 5'9'' is that draft able still?
    Right, SS Panthers is listed at 5'9", and I think their being generous. Santana Moss is listed at 5'10", another exaggeration. Jernigan's biggest obstacle is that he is raw at the skills needed to make a good NFL receiver, not his height. A short receiver needs to run crisp routes and be exceptionally strong to gain separation. I haven't seen him enough to make the call, but what I saw on his college film did not remind me of Santana Moss at the U.

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  • giants8493
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    Originally posted by gmen46 View Post
    Moss and Jernigan are both 5'8". That's 4" under 6 feet, and considered to be short by any definition you chose in the NFL.
    SO no 5'8''. What if a player is 5'9'' is that draft able still?

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  • gmen46
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    Originally posted by giants8493 View Post
    How short is "short receiver" under 6 foot?
    Moss and Jernigan are both 5'8". That's 4" under 6 feet, and considered to be short by any definition you chose in the NFL.

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  • giants8493
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    How short is "short receiver" under 6 foot?

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  • bearbryant
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    JJ will not flourish in Blue. He has shown some skills but much like Wes Welker before getting to the team who used him in a way that spelled success for him and the Pats, the Jints will not be retooling to showcase JJ. I hope I'm not wrong because if KG does use JJ that means that Cruz has moved on and no way JJ even comes close to the performance that Cruz exhibits

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  • gmen46
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Engage away, that's why we're here. Whether by philosophy or talent, the Giants will do what they think is best for the long term.
    Well, of course. I've been too impressed with Reese and all the team's talent evaluators track record to not believe in them now.

    It's just I do find it a bit rich--getting back to the OP of this thread--that there is so much positive passion on behalf of Jernigan, unsubstantiated by very little if any performance to date, so soon after there was such vehement vitriol against Moss after his first 2 (though maybe it was after his 3rd).

    I mean, the aspects of Moss' potential that were so highly anticipated and touted by all concerned--"blazing" speed, quickness, and ability as a good returner--ultimately meant nothing. Moss could not deliver, when it was all said and done.

    The same attributes have, as it happens, been attributed to Jernigan. The disappointing results, after 2 seasons, have been eerily similar to those of Moss.

    And they're both short. So they got that going for them.

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by gmen46 View Post
    I acknowledge that probability, as I admitted to you in the other thread.

    But that likelyhood has more to do with the Giants overall philosophy of keeping high draft picks, than it does their current opinion of a certain player's established ability. That's more a policy decision than it is a talent evaluation. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it, though.

    As long as there are those here that keep maintaining he should be retained, by leaning primarily on the 2 excuses of "he's only been on the team 2 years, give him more" and "what do you expect from a WR who's only a slot receiver playing behind Cruz?", then I will engage.
    Engage away, that's why we're here. Whether by philosophy or talent, the Giants will do what they think is best for the long term.

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  • gmen46
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    You have to realize that it's more likely than not that he will play out his rookie contract as they continue to develop him.
    I acknowledge that probability, as I admitted to you in the other thread.

    But that likelyhood has more to do with the Giants overall philosophy of keeping high draft picks, than it does their current opinion of a certain player's established ability. That's more a policy decision than it is a talent evaluation. It doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it, though.

    As long as there are those here that keep maintaining he should be retained, by leaning primarily on the 2 excuses of "he's only been on the team 2 years, give him more" and "what do you expect from a WR who's only a slot receiver playing behind Cruz?", then I will engage.

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  • hugehomer
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    Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
    With the 19th pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Tavon Austin, WR, WVU.
    Looking at that draft you must think the Giants have an OL that is good.

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