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  • Giants are currently only $3,832,113 under the cap - Again thanks to Optimus-NY BBI

    Some how Dallas with all their restructuring is now in better position than us... after being in cap hell....... go figure.




    Cap Space for teams (sorted from most cap space to least cap space): as of March 3, 2013:










    Later on this offseason, they're going to need money to sign the rookies. The estimated rookie pool number for the Giants, courtesy of overthecap.com is $4,614,587


    •Basically, the Giants need to be at $10,839,587 under the cap in order to sign their draft picks and Restricted Free Agents (RFAs).
    •Right now they are only $3,832,113 under the cap, which means that they are fine to start free agency in 9 days, but they will need to clear another $7,007,474 in cap room in order to get done what they need to get done eventually this offseason.
    •In order to take care of the most pressing need--the Restricted Free Agents who'll cost $6.225 M (Cruz, S. Brown, and A. Brown), they're going to need to clear another $2,392,887--this has to happen before the tenders are due before the start of free agency on March 12th.
    •As can be seen, there is obviously more work to be done by the Giants' cap man, K. Abrams, before free agency begins--I didn't even include the Giants' own free agents that they want to attempt to retain OR the players that they'd be interested in gong after from other teams.


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  • #2
    Another 7 million in cap space? LOL

    this should be good

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    • #3
      Originally posted by drewz View Post
      Another 7 million in cap space? LOL

      this should be good
      As much as I love Webster, he has to be cut or take MUCH less. Diehl as well.

      I just cannot understand how Dallas climbed out of their cap hell so fast.... they always seem to do this. I'm sure it doesn't benefit their future but still.

      Dallas was $20+ million OVER the and now they have more cap room than us?
      "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
        As much as I love Webster, he has to be cut or take MUCH less. Diehl as well.

        I just cannot understand how Dallas climbed out of their cap hell so fast.... they always seem to do this. I'm sure it doesn't benefit their future but still.

        Dallas was $20+ million OVER the and now they have more cap room than us?
        They restructured like 6 people. Just wait till those cap hits come in the next couple years, Jerruh must be in win now mode.

        If the Giants had an offer out to Cullen Jenkins, Kenny Phillips, more people are probably on the chopping block then we already know. Or maybe they're gonna put a lower tender on Cruz and Stevie Brown to reduce the price tag.. interesting month coming up

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        • #5
          They have some work to do.
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
            If a player gets cut after the 12th,does their cap hit become the dead money amount?
            We Want 5!

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            • #7
              LOL @ cleveland 46,000,000 in cap space

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              • #8
                Diehl + Webster + Tuck = about that freed up (if not more)...

                I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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                • #9
                  DeMarcus Ware, Miles Austin, Brandon Carr, Jason Witten and Ryan Cook all had their deals adjusted in order to clear up the $20 million necessary to meet the 2013 salary cap. Speculations suggest that Nate Livings, Orlando Scandrick, Mackenzy Bernadeau and Jay Ratliff will also be restructured.

                  How I love Jerry Jones
                  "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                    Diehl + Webster + Tuck = about that freed up (if not more)...
                    A hell of a lot more... but we can't cut Tuck. We are counting on him being productive next season... we have too many other holes to cut him. We already lost Osi.

                    Also if we lose Boothe we may need to keep Diehl as well
                    "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                    • #11


                      As you can see Toad, it's MUCH much more however we cant afford to cut all of them.

                      Snee and Tuck arent going anywhere.

                      Releasing Webster alone would put us where we want to be.
                      "Once a Giant, ALWAYS, a Giant."

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                      • #12
                        T.C. to his daughter honey we are going to cut your husbands salary down to 4 MIL can you make it on that.
                        Bill Loyal to the NYG logo

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                        • #13
                          Can we pay Chris Snees salary through Coughlin? Bump Coughlins pay $7 million a year since it will get double taxed and he gives it to his daughter. Chris Snee takes the league minimum. We save like 3-4 million in cap space.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
                            As much as I love Webster, he has to be cut or take MUCH less. Diehl as well.

                            I just cannot understand how Dallas climbed out of their cap hell so fast.... they always seem to do this. I'm sure it doesn't benefit their future but still.

                            Dallas was $20+ million OVER the and now they have more cap room than us?
                            I don't think Dallas has resigned any of their own FAs yet. Also, think about what all those restructures are going to do to their cap space moving forward.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LayLow View Post
                              If a player gets cut after the 12th,does their cap hit become the dead money amount?
                              Cap hit = Salary+Dead Money (dead money is money that has already been paid to a player, for instance signing bonuses, or money that is otherwise guaranteed).

                              No matter what, dead money counts against the cap. As far as cutting a player, vet salaries aren't typically guaranteed until they are on the Week 1 roster. Once that happens, 100% of their salary is guaranteed for the season. So, between now and Week 1, if we cut a player we can save on what their base salary is, but all the dead money would count against the cap. If a player has more than one year left on their contract, all dead money is accelerated and counts against the cap this year. So, let's say a player signed a 4 year $20m contract, with $8m of it as a signing bonus. The $8m SB is paid upfront, but for cap purposes is spread over the course of the contract. Each year the player gets a base salary of $3m, and for accounting purposes counts as an additional $2m against the cap for a total of $5m per year. If we wanted to cut him after his second year of the contract, we'd save the $3m base salary, but the remaining $4m "dead money" would be accelerated to hit that season's cap. We'd lose $1m in that scenario.

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