Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Giants Football and Character

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    I like the character guys the Giants have. Two SBs in 5 years?? Tells me they ARE getting guys who can play and aren't total headcases.
    I hate nothing more then to see a Giants player interveiwed and sounds like he just heard the English language last week. Some of these guys couldn't legitimately graduate HS let alone college. I like the trend the Giants have had choosing smart, educated(seemingly), good person type players.
    They do that for the majority of the 53.
    "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
    You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

    Comment


    • #32
      Originally posted by GameTime View Post
      I like the character guys the Giants have. Two SBs in 5 years?? Tells me they ARE getting guys who can play and aren't total headcases.
      I hate nothing more then to see a Giants player interveiwed and sounds like he just heard the English language last week. Some of these guys couldn't legitimately graduate HS let alone college. I like the trend the Giants have had choosing smart, educated(seemingly), good person type players.
      They do that for the majority of the 53.
      That's more a Reese thing... Accorsi picked up more straight-up physical talent but overlooked character sometimes, that's how we ended up with headcases that played well like Plax, Tiki, and Shockey. Reese takes character and willingness to put in work into consideration a lot more. Ogletree would practically be a lock at 19 if he was on the board if Accorsi were GM. Reese, not so sure...

      I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

      Comment


      • #33
        Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
        we have 3 OLB's if Rivers is re-signed. We need a thumper in the middle that is still athletic enough to cover in the pass game. Ogletree will get swallowed up in the run game as a mike
        That's what they said about Ulracher. He was an undersized former safety as well. Technique can be taught to fight off blockers. What you can't teach is speed and instincts and he's got a whole lotta that.
        Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

        http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

        Comment


        • #34
          Originally posted by B&RWarrior View Post
          Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
          we have 3 OLB's if Rivers is re-signed. We need a thumper in the middle that is still athletic enough to cover in the pass game. Ogletree will get swallowed up in the run game as a mike
          That's what they said about Ulracher. He was an undersized former safety as well. Technique can be taught to fight off blockers. What you can't teach is speed and instincts and he's got a whole lotta that.
          You also can't fix stupid. If you were interviewing potential employees for a job position in your company, would you take the guy that can work better than the others on paper but showed up to the interview hammered?

          I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

          Comment


          • #35
            Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
            You also can't fix stupid. If you were interviewing potential employees for a job position in your company, would you take the guy that can work better than the others on paper but showed up to the interview hammered?
            He doesn't work better than others on paper. He's better than others on the field. I can't justify Ogeltree's actions, but getting a DUI is not the same as showing up to an interview drunk.

            LT was also a poor decision maker and that worked out for us. Also, remember these are young adults that are becoming men. College is the time that you make mistakes, learn and grow. Only its players that go on to the NFL that get a magnifying glass put on their mistakes.

            FYI Poor decision making doesn't necessarily equate to lack of intelligence. Most of these guys are well aware of the rules they just place themselves above them.
            Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

            http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

            Comment


            • #36
              Thats why I leave the provision that if Reese actually does pick Ogletree i will support it. I just don't see Ogletree being a good Giant with the way TC runs things. LT wouldn't have flourished in today's football either. Not due to playing ability, but due to the media scrutiny that just didn't exist in the 80s...

              I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

              Comment


              • #37
                Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                Thats why I leave the provision that if Reese actually does pick Ogletree i will support it. I just don't see Ogletree being a good Giant with the way TC runs things. LT wouldn't have flourished in today's football either. Not due to playing ability, but due to the media scrutiny that just didn't exist in the 80s...
                LMAO you aint lying. LTs parade of escorts would have been pure joy for ESPN journalists.
                Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

                Comment


                • #38
                  Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                  Pisses me off!!! We should hire Gil Brandt.....dude is a "genious"
                  genius*

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CowboysSuck View Post
                    genius*
                    he spelled it wong on purpose, that's why it's in quotes. He was quoting a former member here..lolz

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                      You also can't fix stupid. If you were interviewing potential employees for a job position in your company, would you take the guy that can work better than the others on paper but showed up to the interview hammered?
                      he's a 22 year old kid who made some bad decisions. on the flip of what you are saying would you expect a potential employer to ask you if you like girls? or if you are gay?, because not only is it illegal, it apparently does not apply to the NFL. would you accept a job from said employer?

                      Comment


                      • #41
                        he didn't just get 1 DUI...if that were the case learn from your mistakes and move on. He was suspended at UGA twice...once for theft and once for a failed drug test. Does that sound like this kid is learning from his mistakes?

                        on top of that giving him a million dollars or more is going to help him?
                        Last edited by DownWitJPP; 03-04-2013, 08:49 PM.

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ELI_HOF_NYG View Post
                          he's a 22 year old kid who made some bad decisions. on the flip of what you are saying would you expect a potential employer to ask you if you like girls? or if you are gay?, because not only is it illegal, it apparently does not apply to the NFL. would you accept a job from said employer?
                          I'd rather focus on how he was manhandled by Alabama rather than who he prefers to date, which is, IMHO, irrelevant to the evaluation.
                          No one remembers who came in second.

                          Comment

                          Working...
                          X