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  • #76
    Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
    You have no idea
    Just the color issue alone......
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #77
      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
      What is the # Cruz is asking for??
      Haha I don't think any of us will know for sure until he gets an offer from outside the NYG since the Giants nor Cruz's camp are saying anything. I think it is safe to assume he want more than Hartline though.

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      • #78
        A ton of wideouts have exceeded 1k yards in a season recently picked after the 6th pick. More so than receivers picked 1-6.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by TheEnigma View Post
          3rd or 9th overall for Cruz? That would be huge but I doubt it would ever happen.
          rams have two first round picks. The first one being at 16. The second one at 23. If they were the ones with the highest offer sheet they would have to give us the higher of the two picks or no?
          Football has been very, very good to us.
          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
          4-New York Giants!!!
          5-NE
          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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          • #80
            Originally posted by rtlax View Post
            Haha I don't think any of us will know for sure until he gets an offer from outside the NYG since the Giants nor Cruz's camp are saying anything. I think it is safe to assume he want more than Hartline though.
            Here's why I ask. John Mara said "too high, right now." So was it too high because of the CAP, too high as in not worth it, too high as in we won't pay that? I honestly believe if Cruz is tendered, which seem probable, they will come to a long term deal during the 2013 season.
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • #81
              I think it means "Their" pick meaning the pick they have based on record not the one based on previous trades.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by DaFrenchy View Post
                I would be piss if we lost him now but ...I prefer gain a 1st round pick than receive nothing if we can't resign him next year
                makes sense to do it this way. We don't have the $$$$ to sign him for what the market will bear this year or next. Giants management knows this. So the first round tender makes the most sense. I highly doubt he plays under the tender amt. someone will throw him crazy money this yr or next. At least we get another pick in this yrs draft should that happen
                Football has been very, very good to us.
                After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                4-New York Giants!!!
                5-NE
                Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                  makes sense to do it this way. We don't have the $$$$ to sign him for what the market will bear this year or next. Giants management knows this. So the first round tender makes the most sense. I highly doubt he plays under the tender amt. someone will throw him crazy money this yr or next. At least we get another pick in this yrs draft should that happen
                  The CAP issue is not nearly as bad next year as it is now. Reese will likely sign Cruz long term during the season.
                  “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by rtlax View Post
                    I think it means "Their" pick meaning the pick they have based on record not the one based on previous trades.
                    so which one was their pick and which one did they get via trade
                    Football has been very, very good to us.
                    After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                    But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                    # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                    1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                    2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                    3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                    4-New York Giants!!!
                    5-NE
                    Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                    ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                      so which one was their pick and which one did they get via trade
                      16 is theirs, 22 is from the skins

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by rtlax View Post
                        16 is theirs, 22 is from the skins
                        wow at 16 we stand a "Chance" to get Warmack.. Lol
                        Football has been very, very good to us.
                        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                        4-New York Giants!!!
                        5-NE
                        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          What is the # Cruz is asking for??
                          between 10-11 Mil annually

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by TuckandRolle View Post
                            between 10-11 Mil annually
                            Lol'd

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Moke View Post
                              Lol'd
                              dude change that avatar PLEASE
                              sigpic
                              FUTURE NY GIANTS PLAYER

                              2015 season tbd

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by TuckandRolle View Post
                                between 10-11 Mil annually
                                No, that's what the media has suggested
                                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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