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    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefterWith Greg Jennings in MINN, neither team with double first-round picks - Rams nor Vikes - is expected to sign Victor Cruz to an offer sheet.

    Now let's sign the man so I can sleep.
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    Have the browns ever been brought up? I just wonder because they are tons under the cap last I checked.

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    • #3
      I love VC but I wouldn't expect a contract before training camp. VC is a standup guy and the Giants prolly feel confident that he will not pull an Osi and hold out. That said I would love the Giants to prove me wrong and sign him to a long term contract

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      • #4
        This whole thing s*cks.i hate the fact i keep checking my phone for updates and jump when the stupid espn app goes off.I know i got some encouraging tweets from some reporters saying cruz is going anywhere,but i want wriiten prof lol. i hope a deal is done and not going to cripple us.With nicks a free agent next year,money is going to be a problem.We still need a TE,some corner help and linebackers bigtime. i like cruz,i really do but dont want to break the bank on him.Those 'megatron' deals scare me.
        With cruz's new agent,hope something can be worked out.Even with all the Giants stuff going on with osi,and cruz,i rather be a giants fan then a jets day anyday of the week.
        '"Respect All,Fear none'''


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        • #5
          If no one signs him to an Offer sheet then the ball is thrown back into Victors Court to sign his Tender and play for the 2.8 Million or Holdout. As said I think he would sign it. However it would be smart on the Giants part to not let this go to far into the 2013 Season before they lock him up. The last thing they need is to have both Nicks and Cruz as UFAs at the end of this upcoming season. The Longer the Giants make him wait the more bitter he may become and want to test UFA. I say let him sign it (tender) but then get him under a longterm deal ASAP
          Football has been very, very good to us.
          After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
          But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

          # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

          1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
          2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
          3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
          4-New York Giants!!!
          5-NE
          Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

          ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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          • #6
            Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
            If no one signs him to an Offer sheet then the ball is thrown back into Victors Court to sign his Tender and play for the 2.8 Million or Holdout. As said I think he would sign it. However it would be smart on the Giants part to not let this go to far into the 2013 Season before they lock him up. The last thing they need is to have both Nicks and Cruz as UFAs at the end of this upcoming season. The Longer the Giants make him wait the more bitter he may become and want to test UFA. I say let him sign it (tender) but then get him under a longterm deal ASAP
            With the Welker and Amendola signings, it's pretty apparent that the going price for a top slot receiver is $6 mil. Victor can always claim to be more; but I think the Giants are on pretty firm ground for a five year $30mil deal. Maybe some incentive clauses to reward him for big years; but the base salary is prettty clear. The ball truly is in Victor's court. He could lose a pile of money if he puts in a bad year. He would be wise to lock the $6 mil/yr up, and try to capitalize on his marketability in NYC.

            A hold out would be the dumbest thing he could do, and I don't expect him to do that.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NYGfanNC View Post
              Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefterWith Greg Jennings in MINN, neither team with double first-round picks - Rams nor Vikes - is expected to sign Victor Cruz to an offer sheet.

              Now let's sign the man so I can sleep.
              Why would we sign him now unless we get a nice team-friendly deal? If he doesn't get an offer sheet, he has to play with us this year for $2.9M. Advantage Giants.

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              • #8
                There is no real reason to hold out/sit out a year instead of the signing the RFA tender as the team can just continually put the RFA tender on the player after each season until the player accrues his 4th regular season playing under the tender. Of course, getting an offer sheet from another team or geting a new deal done with the current team would also prety much absolve the RFA tag as well.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                  Why would we sign him now unless we get a nice team-friendly deal? If he doesn't get an offer sheet, he has to play with us this year for $2.9M. Advantage Giants.
                  I guess it depends on how long they plan on keeping him around, and what WRs will be available in FA next year potentially making Cruz's value go up or down. If they want to give him a ~4 yr contract it may benefit us to sign him now, than later if he puts up good numbers again this season, making his value go up again. Judging by Welker and Amendola's contracts Cruz would probably get something in the neighborhood of 6mil a year if we resigned him now. If we waited a year to give him a new contract, it would save us about 3mil short term but down the line may end up costing us more or less so there is risk both ways. We really don't know what is going to happen next year so it wouldn't be crazy to lock him up now.

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                  • #10
                    Cruz also has to realize being in NYC/NJ area will increase his annual salary by X amount of dollars in endorsements over any other potential city he would consider signing with
                    Football has been very, very good to us.
                    After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                    But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                    # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                    1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                    2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                    3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                    4-New York Giants!!!
                    5-NE
                    Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                    ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                      Cruz also has to realize being in NYC/NJ area will increase his annual salary by X amount of dollars in endorsements over any other potential city he would consider signing with
                      I tend to agree, but people have brought up examples of players from smaller markets, like P. Manning and A. Rodgers, who have done well with endorsements.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                        Cruz also has to realize being in NYC/NJ area will increase his annual salary by X amount of dollars in endorsements over any other potential city he would consider signing with
                        Absolutely! With his personality he can make a ton of extra money doing product endorsements.

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                        • #13
                          Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure players aren't allowed to holdout anymore under the new CBA.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                            Why would we sign him now unless we get a nice team-friendly deal? If he doesn't get an offer sheet, he has to play with us this year for $2.9M. Advantage Giants.
                            Because they have already made him an offer for a long term deal.
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FlyingTruck View Post
                              Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure players aren't allowed to holdout anymore under the new CBA.
                              Fines for holdouts only apply to players that are under an existing signed contract to play. Free agents will alway have a right to not sign a contract/tender, no matter how much negotiation leverage the team has. They are free to quit the NFL or sit out an entire season with no NFL salary if they can't play for another team, but that rarely happens. An NFL salary is still way better than no salary or a regular joe's salary. Just ask Blackburn how much he was making from teaching compared to coming back to the Giants late in the 2011 season.
                              Last edited by BigBlueAllDay; 03-16-2013, 03:46 PM.

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