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    IMOVHO -- Osi and Cruz will be in Blue next season. No one is really salivating over either one of them at this point in the FA Market. Osi although not "OLD" as a person he is "OLD" as a Defensive End. He at this point in his career is more or less a situational player and specializes in Rushing the Passer. He has lost a few steps over the years and I think he will realize that the Giants offer is the best for his career and his longevity as a player in the NFL. He can aso step up if needed if his counterpart is injured for a few weeks and fill the starting position. He cant do it for 16 games though. (Age)

    Cruz although a very rare talent as far as Slot Recievers go can play on the outside and can be effective. He is just plain lights out in the Slot though. I dont really see any team at this point in time giving up a 1st round pick and also pay him 10 - 11 million a year The timing isnt good as far as the cap goes and its not getting any better next season. He will sign with the NYG at least his tender then work on a LTC and have it done before the Pre Season is done

    peace
    Dan

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    Osi wants to be a starter and wants starter money, he said he doesn't want to be a backup.

    As for Cruz I hope we sign him for long term. I think it will get done before the regular season.

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    • #3
      I know Osi want to be a starter and wants starter money. Teams dont look at him that wasy anymore. So what he wants and what he gets are 2 different things

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      • #4
        Originally posted by danme View Post
        IMOVHO -- Osi and Cruz will be in Blue next season. No one is really salivating over either one of them at this point in the FA Market. Osi although not "OLD" as a person he is "OLD" as a Defensive End. He at this point in his career is more or less a situational player and specializes in Rushing the Passer. He has lost a few steps over the years and I think he will realize that the Giants offer is the best for his career and his longevity as a player in the NFL. He can aso step up if needed if his counterpart is injured for a few weeks and fill the starting position. He cant do it for 16 games though. (Age)

        Cruz although a very rare talent as far as Slot Recievers go can play on the outside and can be effective. He is just plain lights out in the Slot though. I dont really see any team at this point in time giving up a 1st round pick and also pay him 10 - 11 million a year The timing isnt good as far as the cap goes and its not getting any better next season. He will sign with the NYG at least his tender then work on a LTC and have it done before the Pre Season is done

        peace
        Dan
        Cruz is a forgone conclusion. He's a Giant next year.
        There is no chance we'll see Osi in blue however. 0.0% chance. (and that's pretty low)
        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by danme View Post
          I know Osi want to be a starter and wants starter money. Teams dont look at him that wasy anymore. So what he wants and what he gets are 2 different things
          I'd rather keep Osi than Tuck. At least Osi can get to the QB. Tuck can't do that or stop the run and we pay him starter money..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CGYgiant View Post
            I'd rather keep Osi than Tuck. At least Osi can get to the QB. Tuck can't do that or stop the run and we pay him starter money..
            All Osi is anymore is a situational pass rusher. He's not a complete DE by any stretch.
            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CGYgiant View Post
              I'd rather keep Osi than Tuck. At least Osi can get to the QB. Tuck can't do that or stop the run and we pay him starter money..
              I totally agree with you on this --- I have been saying that for 2 seasons now -- Tucks Neck injury is really impeding his play on the field

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                All Osi is anymore is a situational pass rusher. He's not a complete DE by any stretch.
                Um Morehead -- If you read my first post I had already said that. So I ask you whats your point here

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by danme View Post
                  Um Morehead -- If you read my first post I had already said that. So I ask you whats your point here
                  Our pass rush specialist racked up a grand total of 6 sacks last season, why keep him on the team when he is a liability in run defense and now late in his career can no longer be effective rushing the passer?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by danme View Post
                    Um Morehead -- If you read my first post I had already said that. So I ask you whats your point here
                    I wasn't responding to you in this particular post.
                    Where you and I might disagree is the value to our team and likelihood that Osi can come back.
                    Osi can't really help us anymore. We need to get JPP at RDE and leave him there. Osi has actually hurt JPP's productivity.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by danme View Post
                      IMOVHO -- Osi and Cruz will be in Blue next season. No one is really salivating over either one of them at this point in the FA Market. Osi although not "OLD" as a person he is "OLD" as a Defensive End. He at this point in his career is more or less a situational player and specializes in Rushing the Passer. He has lost a few steps over the years and I think he will realize that the Giants offer is the best for his career and his longevity as a player in the NFL. He can aso step up if needed if his counterpart is injured for a few weeks and fill the starting position. He cant do it for 16 games though. (Age)

                      Cruz although a very rare talent as far as Slot Recievers go can play on the outside and can be effective. He is just plain lights out in the Slot though. I dont really see any team at this point in time giving up a 1st round pick and also pay him 10 - 11 million a year The timing isnt good as far as the cap goes and its not getting any better next season. He will sign with the NYG at least his tender then work on a LTC and have it done before the Pre Season is done

                      peace
                      Dan

                      What is "IMOVHO"?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ShakeandBake View Post
                        Our pass rush specialist racked up a grand total of 6 sacks last season, why keep him on the team when he is a liability in run defense and now late in his career can no longer be effective rushing the passer?
                        He'll probably get a job with a team like Atlanta or NE. But he'll probably also be a disappointment wherever he goes as well.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          He'll probably get a job with a team like Atlanta or NE. But he'll probably also be a disappointment wherever he goes as well.
                          I agree I think he will be signed somewhere, but man does he have delusions of grandeur when it comes to his ability. I can't believe he came out and said he is going to be defensive player of the year, and that he will break Strays record.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by danme View Post
                            IMOVHO -- Osi and Cruz will be in Blue next season. No one is really salivating over either one of them at this point in the FA Market. Osi although not "OLD" as a person he is "OLD" as a Defensive End. He at this point in his career is more or less a situational player and specializes in Rushing the Passer. He has lost a few steps over the years and I think he will realize that the Giants offer is the best for his career and his longevity as a player in the NFL. He can aso step up if needed if his counterpart is injured for a few weeks and fill the starting position. He cant do it for 16 games though. (Age)

                            Cruz although a very rare talent as far as Slot Recievers go can play on the outside and can be effective. He is just plain lights out in the Slot though. I dont really see any team at this point in time giving up a 1st round pick and also pay him 10 - 11 million a year The timing isnt good as far as the cap goes and its not getting any better next season. He will sign with the NYG at least his tender then work on a LTC and have it done before the Pre Season is done

                            peace
                            Dan
                            Putting Osi and Cruz in the same conversation should be bannable
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • #15
                              We can use Osi like the Parcells used George Martin in 86 (3rd down and passing situations). But we would have to get him cheap. Cruz speaks for himself. We need him back.

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