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  • Rams Out Of Mix To Sign Cruz

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...S7nxhrQC5CwtpM

    Excerpt: "Giants co-owner Steve Tisch said on Sunday he’s expecting some team to sign Victor Cruz to a lucrative offer sheet in excess of $6 million per year. Tisch doesn’t have to worry about the Rams plucking Cruz off the restricted free agent pile.

    Though the Rams have two first-round draft picks, they are up against the salary cap after signing offensive tackle Jake Long and are unwilling to give up one of those first-round picks, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.


    The Giants already have an offer on the table for Cruz in excess of $6 million per season, which is why Tisch said what he did. At this point, the Giants’ offer may be the best, or only, offer Cruz receives, as the restricted free agent market may have dried up. If that is the case, it will be up to Cruz to either accept what co-owner John Mara said is “a very substantial offer’’ that will make Cruz “a very wealthy young man’’ or else play in 2013 for the one-year tender of $2.879 million and test the market after the season as an unrestricted free agent." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    And that means Cruz stays a Giant ... at least for 2013.
    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
      And that means Cruz stays a Giant ... at least for 2013.
      And likely beyond. They still have to negotiate the contract.
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #4
        I don't think any team was ever seriously "in the mix".
        Cruz was never getting an offer if it meant losing a first round pick.

        All these articles suggesting that the Giants were "bracing" for an offer for Cruz was a smokescreen. It was never going to happen.
        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
          I don't think any team was ever seriously "in the mix".
          Cruz was never getting an offer if it meant losing a first round pick.

          All these articles suggesting that the Giants were "bracing" for an offer for Cruz was a smokescreen. It was never going to happen.
          I agree, media hypes pays the bills
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
            http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...S7nxhrQC5CwtpMExcerpt: "Giants co-owner Steve Tisch said on Sunday he’s expecting some team to sign Victor Cruz to a lucrative offer sheet in excess of $6 million per year. Tisch doesn’t have to worry about the Rams plucking Cruz off the restricted free agent pile.Though the Rams have two first-round draft picks, they are up against the salary cap after signing offensive tackle Jake Long and are unwilling to give up one of those first-round picks, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.The Giants already have an offer on the table for Cruz in excess of $6 million per season, which is why Tisch said what he did. At this point, the Giants’ offer may be the best, or only, offer Cruz receives, as the restricted free agent market may have dried up. If that is the case, it will be up to Cruz to either accept what co-owner John Mara said is “a very substantial offer’’ that will make Cruz “a very wealthy young man’’ or else play in 2013 for the one-year tender of $2.879 million and test the market after the season as an unrestricted free agent." Read more...
            yea posted in a thread last night someone put up about this around midnight.
            Football has been very, very good to us.
            After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
            But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

            # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

            1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
            2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
            3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
            4-New York Giants!!!
            5-NE
            Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

            ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
              I don't think any team was ever seriously "in the mix".
              Cruz was never getting an offer if it meant losing a first round pick.

              All these articles suggesting that the Giants were "bracing" for an offer for Cruz was a smokescreen. It was never going to happen.
              A smokescreen for what?
              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                I don't think any team was ever seriously "in the mix".
                Cruz was never getting an offer if it meant losing a first round pick.

                All these articles suggesting that the Giants were "bracing" for an offer for Cruz was a smokescreen. It was never going to happen.
                Agreed. I come on here 3 or 4 times a week, and all I see is Cruz threads. This isnt even a real issue right now.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                  I don't think any team was ever seriously "in the mix".
                  Cruz was never getting an offer if it meant losing a first round pick.

                  All these articles suggesting that the Giants were "bracing" for an offer for Cruz was a smokescreen. It was never going to happen.
                  agreed as well
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                    A smokescreen for what?
                    Excellent question. The Giants braintrust always believed what should have been obvious, that there was never going to be an offer. As a matter of fact they may have been desperately hoping for one.
                    But to continue the narrative that they value Victor Cruz (which those comments do) can only help in the relationship needed to make a good deal for the team. When ego's get involved and one side has an "I told you so" mentality, it can be counterproductive to an agreement.
                    So now, VC is disappointed but bears no ill will to us.
                    I really think Mr. Tisch's comments were part of that. These are not stupid people.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • #11
                      I've said it all along, negotiation is one big poker game. I would have been shocked if Cruz went someplace else this season.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        Excellent question. The Giants braintrust always believed what should have been obvious, that there was never going to be an offer. As a matter of fact they may have been desperately hoping for one.
                        But to continue the narrative that they value Victor Cruz (which those comments do) can only help in the relationship needed to make a good deal for the team. When ego's get involved and one side has an "I told you so" mentality, it can be counterproductive to an agreement.
                        So now, VC is disappointed but bears no ill will to us.
                        I really think Mr. Tisch's comments were part of that. These are not stupid people.
                        Fair point .... i like it
                        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                        • #13
                          And by the way, I think the Giants FO really does value Victor Cruz. I just think they have a strategy to maximize their position in the entire process.
                          Its not like it was completely disingenuous. They just played it up a tad.
                          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                          • #14
                            Hopefully Victor Cruz takes the deal that is just over 6 million per season. I am sure there is a decent amount of guaranteed money and it would be a lot to risk. Injuries happen in NFL so it is always good to get what you can when you can.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                              And by the way, I think the Giants FO really does value Victor Cruz. I just think they have a strategy to maximize their position in the entire process.
                              Its not like it was completely disingenuous. They just played it up a tad.
                              You just like hearing me say "I agree".
                              I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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