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  • #61
    Originally posted by G-Men Surg. View Post
    He does attend. Don't know the last one he visited but he was at JPP proday in '10.
    does the coach have any say on the draft day..who he would like to be picked..or is it strictly JR and his scouts decision?

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    • #62
      Originally posted by rxc999 View Post
      does the coach have any say on the draft day..who he would like to be picked..or is it strictly JR and his scouts decision?
      The coaches are always involved but the final say is the GM's. Coughlin is asked his input on certain players. The pick is designed to get the best player they are all on board with and what's best for the team itself.
      "You killed my family, and I don't like that kind of thing."

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Duckdownman View Post
        I think the point he was trying to make was that LT's scouting report would have a bunch of weaknesses listed. Every player does, on every report. They nit pick, that's the purpose.
        The ogletree "weaknesses" that we're posted are quite typical.
        That's the point I was trying to make. I think the 2 are incomparable. Think back to Ndamukong Suh when he was drafted. That is representative of what people thought about LT. When I look at the scouting reports for Suh the admit that there isn't much not to like. The same thing would have happened to LT. However, Ogeltree isn't that type of player and I think the scouting report accurately reflects legitimate areas of concern.
        Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

        http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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        • #64
          Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
          It's on a different level. The truly elite prospects have very small of minimal negatives listed. A guy like Calvin Johnson, or Patrick Willis, or joe Thomas had nothing bad listed about them. Same as LT. Truly rare talent. Once a decade type player (turned out to be even more rare than that).

          Ogletree is not that type of guy. He's a good player, but not rare. His arm use (lack of) alone probably will prevent him from playing MLB for at least a season. He can't stack and shed at all, which is critical for any inside linebacker. He will probably have to start out at weakside where he can run and chase and be protected up front
          Thank you Slip. LOL I just posted a reply because I didn't see yours, but you said the same thing I said. I used Suh as an example of rare talent recognized by scouting reports comparable to how Scouts saw LT.
          Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

          http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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          • #65
            I wouldn't be mad at this pick. There is a good chance Ogletree will be available at #19.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Buto View Post
              Mr Reese is just looking at the men in the draft.
              He already has Connor so Ogletree isn't on the radar.
              Ya cause Connor was signed to be our franchise MLB and everything

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              • #67
                Originally posted by NWKEffectElement View Post
                Seems like a smokescreen.
                Wasn't our whole crew at usf proday when we took JPP???

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by rxc999 View Post
                  does the coach have any say on the draft day..who he would like to be picked..or is it strictly JR and his scouts decision?
                  I think TC has always had a say on draft decision all thru out his tenure here and I'm sure by now he has a strong opinion in draft choices but obviously he doesn't have the final word, thats Reese's job.
                  " Success is never final, but failure can be " B.P.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Buto View Post
                    Mr Reese is just looking at the men in the draft.
                    He already has Connor so Ogletree isn't on the radar.
                    Never say never with Jerry Reese's BPA
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #70
                      With this Pro Day performance Ogeltree is gone by 19.
                      Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                      http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                      • #71
                        I'd be happy with any of the Georgia OR Alabama players -- both programs were so loaded with nice talent. Would also be happy with Ansah.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                          and a goddamn dui
                          I'm with you.. too much risk for a 19th pick. Not to mention he is best suited at a wlb in a 43.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by JJC7301 View Post
                            I'd be happy with any of the Georgia OR Alabama players -- both programs were so loaded with nice talent. Would also be happy with Ansah.
                            The problem with those stacked teams sometimes is that the team makes players look better then they are.

                            Like USC QBs for example. They are usually stacked with offensive talent and it makes the qbs look much better then they are. Then you end up with Sanchez or Leinert.

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                            • #74
                              It's Reese doing his "due diligence" and probably nothing more. He is probably on the draft board somewhere and you never know what circumstances may lead to especially if teams start making runs on certain players that may be rated highly by Reese. Reese probably figured some questions could be answered at his pro day and probably just wanted to take a look.

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                              • #75
                                I agree with the smoke screen argument.

                                1. The Giants rarely tips their hand and 9 times out of 10 uses the misdirection play when it comes down to draft picks.

                                2. The "Cowgirls are picking directly in front of the Giants. They will not hesitate to trade back, to elp another team snag a Giant prize.

                                3. The Giants typically drafts "BPA" (Best Player Available). Which, in a way. makes a case for watching Ogletree.

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