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  • NYGfanSTRICK
    started a topic Eli and Cruz!

    Eli and Cruz!

    I am in class right now so I cannot post the link. (I am on my phone haha) but I saw on twitter about it and there was an article on Bleacher Report that I saw soon after. I am aware that bleacher report is a pretty sketchy place to get reliable info. I believe it was an article on NBC sports where Eli was in an interview and made the following statement. I cannot look too much into it at the moment because I have notes to take. I am sure that you guys can locate the article that I am talking about. You guys are crazy quick to post stuff, I love it!

    “I do, I do. I think (that’s) what I have to believe and what I want to believe, just because he’s such an important part of our offense,” Manning said. “I think he wants to be in New York, you know, in his hometown. So I hope it all works out.” that is Eli's quote he had in an interview when asked about Cruz.

  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by Drez View Post
    Somethings will never change, lol.
    You can count on it. It's really amazing how so many fans really have no concept of contract negotiations despite all of the valid information available. You once said put 2 and 2 together but sometimes it's just easier to split the atom.

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  • Drez
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Even better, we will hear all the rumblings about how Wilson is an imgrate in year 4 lol
    Somethings will never change, lol.
    Last edited by RoanokeFan; 03-22-2013, 06:56 AM.

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by Drez View Post
    4 more, I believe. IIRC, first round contracts are 5 years.
    Even better, we will here all the rumblings about how Wilson is an imgrate in year 4 lol

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  • JJC7301
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    Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
    You sure he won't settle for an extra first rounder? /red
    HA! Would have been great if Eli actually said that to the reporter, with a wink and a smile.

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  • AllHailEli
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Wilson will be here at least through his rookie contract. Isn't that 3 more years?
    He's a rookie. He's got yet to prove and lots to work on including this:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1295360

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  • Drez
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Wilson will be here at least through his rookie contract. Isn't that 3 more years?
    4 more, I believe. IIRC, first round contracts are 5 years.

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by AllHailEli View Post
    It's all good but Wilson should make sure he'll be here a long time himself, cuz then what would be the point? Eli could say all he wants, he'll be here a long time. And Tom C is going nowhere after this except retirement.
    Wilson will be here at least through his rookie contract. Isn't that 3 more years?

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  • AllHailEli
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    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    +1 The deck is being stacked against Cruz lol

    Both owners, TC, Reese, Eli and now Wilson and Snee pressing for him to be a part of this team for years to come. It's going to happen, it's a negotiation and, honestly, there is no rush, except for us fans. Tom Condon is going to give Victor what he didn't have before and that is the benefit of "knowing your adversary" and being able to work closely with Jerry Reese to make this a win-win for all concerned.
    It's all good but Wilson should make sure he'll be here a long time himself, cuz then what would be the point? Eli could say all he wants, he'll be here a long time. And Tom C is going nowhere after this except retirement.

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  • Joe Morrison
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    Eli and Cruz!

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...Tufnp00CmNdFLO

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by gmen46 View Post
    Some legitimate points here (except those regarding Jernigan--you have to get over him, he's not happening to the extent all you JJ boys are hoping for).

    The issue, however, is not if we could "manage pretty well because of Eli" if Cruz leaves. I think we all (at least 99% of us) agree and believe that.

    Rather, the issue is we don't want to just "manage". We want to excel, and to make it to another Super Bowl soon. Cruz, along with Nicks and possibly Randle, will give us the better chance of that happening with him on the team vs him not being on the team..
    +1 The deck is being stacked against Cruz lol

    Both owners, TC, Reese, Eli and now Wilson and Snee pressing for him to be a part of this team for years to come. It's going to happen, it's a negotiation and, honestly, there is no rush, except for us fans. Tom Condon is going to give Victor what he didn't have before and that is the benefit of "knowing your adversary" and being able to work closely with Jerry Reese to make this a win-win for all concerned.
    Last edited by RoanokeFan; 03-21-2013, 04:16 PM.

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  • gmen46
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    Originally posted by NYGfanSTRICK View Post
    I would really hate to see him go but I think that we would surprisingly be a lot better off than people think. People are making it sound like on this board that if by some travesty Vic goes to another team that we might as well forfeit... We have a pretty solid core of WR's. Nicks could be a top 5 no doubt in my mind if he is healthy, Randle played well and has great upside, Murphy is a pretty good player but has been suffering from being a WR on teams that it is hard to succeed doing it really.. Jernigan is quick as hell and I think he could be a pretty solid 4th WR and sometimes slot guy. Most people forget that he had the no OTA's etc... and he was in a totally different offense in College. He said last year at the beginning of the year he was still trying to master the playbook because all of the terminology is different and the routes have different names and ran at different yard lengths etc. Plus there are some pretty nice WR's in the draft if we really needed to replace Cruz.

    I do not see that happening realistically but sometimes you have to look at things and see what you would do in the worst possible case. You see how it would shake up the team and how you could respond from the blow. I know we would definitely miss him but I think that we would manage pretty well because of Eli
    Some legitimate points here (except those regarding Jernigan--you have to get over him, he's not happening to the extent all you JJ boys are hoping for).

    The issue, however, is not if we could "manage pretty well because of Eli" if Cruz leaves. I think we all (at least 99% of us) agree and believe that.

    Rather, the issue is we don't want to just "manage". We want to excel, and to make it to another Super Bowl soon. Cruz, along with Nicks and possibly Randle, will give us the better chance of that happening with him on the team vs him not being on the team..

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  • NYGfanSTRICK
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    Originally posted by nygfanmaybe View Post
    It doesn't matter much to me, because I have seen people come and go...Cruz might still be a nobody...but the one constant has been Eli. So...if I am VC, it is a big part in my thinking that I may leave :NY and become a nobody in KC or something. This has to be weighing heavy on his mind as they make a lot of homemade soup out there.
    I would really hate to see him go but I think that we would surprisingly be a lot better off than people think. People are making it sound like on this board that if by some travesty Vic goes to another team that we might as well forfeit... We have a pretty solid core of WR's. Nicks could be a top 5 no doubt in my mind if he is healthy, Randle played well and has great upside, Murphy is a pretty good player but has been suffering from being a WR on teams that it is hard to succeed doing it really.. Jernigan is quick as hell and I think he could be a pretty solid 4th WR and sometimes slot guy. Most people forget that he had the no OTA's etc... and he was in a totally different offense in College. He said last year at the beginning of the year he was still trying to master the playbook because all of the terminology is different and the routes have different names and ran at different yard lengths etc. Plus there are some pretty nice WR's in the draft if we really needed to replace Cruz.

    I do not see that happening realistically but sometimes you have to look at things and see what you would do in the worst possible case. You see how it would shake up the team and how you could respond from the blow. I know we would definitely miss him but I think that we would manage pretty well because of Eli

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  • GCGiant
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    It doesn't matter much to me, because I have seen people come and go...Cruz might still be a nobody...but the one constant has been Eli. So...if I am VC, it is a big part in my thinking that I may leave :NY and become a nobody in KC or something. This has to be weighing heavy on his mind as they make a lot of homemade soup out there.

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  • RoanokeFan
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    Originally posted by NYGfanSTRICK View Post
    Valid point here too, he was a crucial part of the SB run. He was someone that Eli could trust that would be able to get open on 3rd downs and he was just all around solid. Either way you look at it the deal needs to get done and they need to negotiate to a point where they can meet at a middle ground where both sides are happy.
    Victor Cruz will certainly be a Giant in 2013 and will very likely be a Giant long after.

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