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  • #91
    Right because the offense could not sustain a drive.
    Last edited by Buddy333; 03-31-2013, 11:06 PM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
      Right because the offense could not sustain a drive.
      The defense not being able to get off the field is their own fault.

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      • #93
        some games the defense was on, some games they weren't. same could be said about the offense, also with special teams. I remember 2 games that we could have won but Tynes missed the crucial field goal.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Drez View Post
          The defense not being able to get off the field is their own fault.
          The offense not being able to sustain a drive is their fault.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Drez View Post
            The defense had just as much, if not more trouble with getting off the field as the offense had staying on it. Point in case, in the second Redskins game they allowed the Skins to hold the ball for 10:30 of the 4th quarter.

            Save a few games, the offense had more trouble converting drives into TDs rather than FGs, than we did sustaining drives.
            There is no question that our mediocrity last season was a team effort.
            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
              The offense not being able to sustain a drive is their fault.
              And again, the offense's main problem was not scoring TDs when they had the opportunity, not in not being able to sustain drives. IIRC, we had one of the most RZ trips in the entire NFL. That doesn't happen if we don't have sustained offensive drives. Our problem was we too often bogged down in the RZ, causing us to settle for far too many 3s instead of 7s.

              And in that Redskins game, the fault for the Skins ToP is completely on the defense. They just got completely manhandled in the second half of that game.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                There is no question that our mediocrity last season was a team effort.
                Save for Weatherford and Wilson on STs, I agree that the entire team was entirely way too inconsistent.

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                • #98
                  The problem wasn't getting down the field, it was scoring.
                  Mood: WOOF!

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                  • #99
                    I agree with the OP's main thought, this defense scares the crap out of me. It's hasn't been good the past couple of seasons and I'm ready for an overhaul. Biggest white elephant in the room is whether or not Tuck can still be an effective player. He hasn't played well for a couple of seasons now and last year he seemed relatively healthy.

                    Maybe the league has simply figured him out and how to nullify him, particularly as an inside rusher where he used to be so effective.
                    All Hail The New York Giants!!

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                    • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                      The defense had just as much, if not more trouble with getting off the field as the offense had staying on it. Point in case, in the second Redskins game they allowed the Skins to hold the ball for 10:30 of the 4th quarter.Save a few games, the offense had more trouble converting drives into TDs rather than FGs, than we did sustaining drives.
                      While I sort of agree with you about the offense not being able to stay on the field, it's not their entirely fault the defense couldn't get off. The defense was older, but now I see it as revitalized. Plug in a good draft and it will be on fire. As for the offense not sustaining drives, Cruz, Wilson, and Bennett had the load really. Hakeem was injured the majority of last year, Andre and Bradshaw were injured towards the 2nd half of season, Louis Murphy was not even on roster, Randle was a Rookie, and Robinson was injured too. So throw in Hynocerous and Pascoe, along with Eli and an Average O-line, and we were just that. Average. But this year?! WHOAAHH!!!

                      Healthy Nicks? Check
                      2nd year pro Randle? Check
                      Healthy Andre? Check
                      Emergence of Wilson? Check
                      Return of Cruz? Check sort of.( hope he signs deal soon. )
                      New Louis Murphy? Check( let's hope he can be productive too.)
                      Henry Hynoski too? Check
                      New Brandon Myers? Check
                      Pascoe as well? Check
                      Healthy Robinson? Check
                      ELIte QB? Check

                      But the big one, solidified O-LINE? Ehh. RT needs to be addressed. Otherwise, it's gonna be a bright year!!
                      Last edited by Sean Montemayor; 04-01-2013, 02:24 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                        And again, the offense's main problem was not scoring TDs when they had the opportunity, not in not being able to sustain drives. IIRC, we had one of the most RZ trips in the entire NFL. That doesn't happen if we don't have sustained offensive drives. Our problem was we too often bogged down in the RZ, causing us to settle for far too many 3s instead of 7s.And in that Redskins game, the fault for the Skins ToP is completely on the defense. They just got completely manhandled in the second half of that game.
                        In the 4th quarter the offense had a 3 and out just after Washington had scored and that only took 2:03 of the clock. The defense then forced a punt and the offense then made 1 first down and then punted again. Also, the Giants won the battle of TOP in that game with less points to show for it.
                        Last edited by Buddy333; 04-01-2013, 02:29 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Buddy333 View Post
                          In the 4th quarter the offense had a 3 and out just after Washington had scored and that only took 2:03 of the clock. The defense then forced a punt and the offense then made 1 first down and then punted again. Also, the Giants won the battle of TOP in that game with less points to show for it.
                          The Defense lost that game even though the Redskins averaged 27 points a game last year and they scored 17 points. If an Offense cant get 20 points on the board they are going to lose

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                          • Originally posted by BlueBlooded1979 View Post
                            Points per drive is the ultimate evaluator. It basically states how often a team can score on you when they have the ball. So that covers your turnover stats and scoring defense. The Giants were 19th in that department since they only had 170 drives against that defense (lowest in the league). They were also ranked 20th in TDs allowed per drive. It basically menas that they let teams control the game and the clock by not being able to force them off the field.

                            Face facts the Bucaneers, Bengals Ravens and Falcons destroyed them. Even in close games anytime they were counted on to make a big stop they folded like a cheap tent.

                            The offense who everybody wants to "run the ball more" was ranked 2nd in points per drive and 5th in yards per drive but was only given 169 drives all year long because this awful defense couldn't get anyone off the field. How about leave well enough alone ?

                            The cold hard truth is that this defense was pathetic and the fact that Fewell still has a job is a joke.The Giants spent more on defensive cap sapce than anyone but the Jets. Sheridan's defense was better all around and they quit on him. The clowns that compare Fewell to Spagnuolo are delusional.

                            As far as I am concerned this defense is a bottom feeder that should have been scrapped and rebuilt this year
                            The offense was also hit or miss. 7 games they didnt score 20 points. They basically were 2 Teams on Offense. Many games they struggled to get anything going

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                            • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                              The Defense lost that game even though the Redskins averaged 27 points a game last year and they scored 17 points. If an Offense cant get 20 points on the board they are going to lose
                              We were trying to play keep away that game. However, as I said, the offense's primary issue last year was not scoring TDs and instead settling for FGs.

                              The defense did **** the bed in the second half of that game, particularly in the 4th quarter.

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                              • The defense allowed one score in the 4th quarter and held them the next time they had the ball. The offense did absolutely nothing in the 4th quarter to help win the game.

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