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  • #31
    Originally posted by TAILGATIN' View Post
    Not sure if this is sarcasm, but do you think signing Konz means we're good at LBer.. crazy if you do. I joined the site a few years back only because I wanted to talk draft. The only time Im on this site is draft season. Can you explain what you mean instead of just a silly question w a funny face? Im going to need some insight. Thanks.
    Ok my truculent little friend, I will explain.

    Being a follower of the Giants drafts the last few years, you should have noticed that the only LBer we've picked above the 4th round was Clint Sintim in a year we had two second round picks (2009). He managed to play on and off for two seasons before entirely breaking down and hasn't seen the football field since 2010.

    Now our man Reese tends to have a long memory and since then has taken the approach with respect to our LBing corps of throwing tons of able (but low draft priority and/or low end FA signings) bodies at the position and seeing what sticks. These include Herzlich, Greg Jones, Paysinger, Blackburn, JWill and most recently, Dan Connor.

    LBer is the least prioritized position on the defense. As such, I don't anticipate the Giants picking one in the first round, especially when there is DL need as well (which is a priority for the Giants).

    And I don't see a LBer in the first round that merits a change from that position with the possible exception of Arthur Brown which would be a total reach.

    To whit ... Jameson Konz is exactly the type of low-key FA signing that Reese is known for and is not afraid to go into a new season with.
    Last edited by Kruunch; 04-03-2013, 02:48 PM.
    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
      Ok my truculent little friend, I will explain.

      Being a follower of the Giants drafts the last few years, you should have noticed that the only LBer we've picked above the 4th round was Clint Sintim.
      Truculent? Nice touch. Pot callin kettle black? How so if i just simply asked what u were implying and was very nice about it? I'm aware how JR drafts, just hopeful that he will someday realize our D could be much better w a solid LBer. Maybe he makes the move this year. I'm not alone on that thought. Have a good one wise@ss
      Last edited by TAILGATIN'; 04-03-2013, 03:45 PM.
      2017 Draft Wishlist:
      1. Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
      2. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
      3. Roderick Johnson OT Florida State
      4. Jordan Leggett TE Clemson
      5. Ryan Glasgow DT Michegan
      6. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
      7. Billy Brown WR Shepherd

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      • #33
        Originally posted by TAILGATIN' View Post
        Truculent? Nice touch. Pot callin kettle black? How so if i just simply asked what u were implying and was very nice about it? I'm aware how JR drafts, just hopeful that he will someday realize our D could be much better w a solid LBer. Maybe he makes the move this year. I'm not alone on that thought. Have a good one wise@ss
        Ahhh hope springs eternal my pugnacious supercilious bon ami!

        I, too will join with you in that hope but until such a time as the clouds part and the heavens sing, I am consigned to my lot in life as the fan of a team that doesn't cast a favorable countenance upon yon LBing corps.

        Adieu!
        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
          Ok my truculent little friend, I will explain.

          Being a follower of the Giants drafts the last few years, you should have noticed that the only LBer we've picked above the 4th round was Clint Sintim in a year we had two second round picks (2009). He managed to play on and off for two seasons before entirely breaking down and hasn't seen the football field since 2010.

          Now our man Reese tends to have a long memory and since then has taken the approach with respect to our LBing corps of throwing tons of able (but low draft priority and/or low end FA signings) bodies at the position and seeing what sticks. These include Herzlich, Greg Jones, Paysinger, Blackburn, JWill and most recently, Dan Connor.

          LBer is the least prioritized position on the defense. As such, I don't anticipate the Giants picking one in the first round, especially when there is DL need as well (which is a priority for the Giants).

          And I don't see a LBer in the first round that merits a change from that position with the possible exception of Arthur Brown which would be a total reach.

          To whit ... Jameson Konz is exactly the type of low-key FA signing that Reese is known for and is not afraid to go into a new season with.
          Couldn't have summed it up better myself. That's basically what I was trying to say.

          It's not that we don't need a dominant LB....heck, I'm not even saying I wouldn't have wanted one. But I'm just simply stating what's been happening over the past 5 or so years with regards to the draft. Over the course of these 5 years many fans have been upset over our draft picks, many of them wanting LB (including myself for some of those years).

          We have won 2 SB's in those 5 years with not-so-dominant LB's, so although I still like guys like Ogletree, I understand that Reese is doing what he has always done by bringing in FA's like Boley, Bulluck, Rivers, Connor, possibly Konz...etc

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          • #35
            Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post


            Looks like we're doing the same old LB routine. People should stop thinking about Ogletree and Brown and accept the reality of this organization.
            This would be a vintage Reese move.

            I'm suprised he's not working out Meadowlands parking lot attendants.
            "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

            "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
              Ahhh hope springs eternal my pugnacious supercilious bon ami!


              Adieu!
              See, this is why the internet scares some people. You never know what kind if whacked out weirdo on a forum you're dealing with!
              2017 Draft Wishlist:
              1. Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
              2. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
              3. Roderick Johnson OT Florida State
              4. Jordan Leggett TE Clemson
              5. Ryan Glasgow DT Michegan
              6. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
              7. Billy Brown WR Shepherd

              sigpic
              "Behold, the tailgate party. The pinnacle of human achievement. Since the dawn of parking lots, man has sought to fill his gut with food and alcohol in anticipation of watching others exercise."
              - Homer J. Simpson

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              • #37
                Giants are looking at options. as the giants video on our homepage said, scouts aren't even back from pro days. what's his name smelk?

                anyway, I'm digging this giants kicking tires before pulling the trigger. This is what makes us fans and as a team a class act

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by TAILGATIN' View Post
                  See, this is why the internet scares some people. You never know what kind if whacked out weirdo on a forum you're dealing with!
                  Ah don't be rough on yourself ... I never considered you to be "whacked" out (although you might want to consider switching to decaf).

                  I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                    Ah don't be rough on yourself ... I never considered you to be "whacked" out (although you might want to consider switching to decaf).

                    I hereby surrender and officially comply to your code of defeat. You are a noble opponent.
                    2017 Draft Wishlist:
                    1. Christian McCaffrey RB Stanford
                    2. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
                    3. Roderick Johnson OT Florida State
                    4. Jordan Leggett TE Clemson
                    5. Ryan Glasgow DT Michegan
                    6. Chad Kelly QB Ole Miss
                    7. Billy Brown WR Shepherd

                    sigpic
                    "Behold, the tailgate party. The pinnacle of human achievement. Since the dawn of parking lots, man has sought to fill his gut with food and alcohol in anticipation of watching others exercise."
                    - Homer J. Simpson

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TAILGATIN' View Post
                      I hereby surrender and officially comply to your code of defeat. You are a noble opponent.
                      You are wise beyond your years.
                      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
                        I'm thinking you are right about this, every year we all wish for LBers and the team sees it differently
                        That's because everyone here thinks every linebacker in the first round of the draft is freaking LT reincarnated. They don't even realize that LT would play DE in our current defense...

                        I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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