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  • Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
    There is no team in the off-season for a primadonna.
    fyp

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    • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
      But at what point does the loss of his services, for however many games, figure into how much they'll cough up for Nicks? And, yes, the same logic applies to Cruz's drops. That's what I see as each players biggest negatives.
      I think a big problem was Nicks coming back early and not giving his injuries enough time to heal. He is so important to this offense that he often plays hurt.

      Cruz' does have a lot of drops but slot receivers usually do. However, I wish he get them under control. More of a concern is his short arming after the legal hit by Ryan Clarke in the game against Pittsburgh Steelers. Victor short armed it for a while after that. Now, of course you can't fault the guy for human nature but for the money that he is expecting to get, shoprt arming on regular or even prolonged basis is not an option. I really don't want to see us pay 10-11 million a year for a guy that should be getting in the 6-6.5 million per year range that is going to short arm passes. Heck, at 6-6.5 million per year, he should control the short arming.

      Hakeem Nicks doesn't short arm it and is a very, very physical receiver. He exploded in 2011 post season and gave one of The Best postseason performances by a WR ever in post season. The guy reminds me a lot of Michael Irwin and I don't think there is any doubt that Hakeem Nicks is our #1 WR.

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      • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
        "It's unclear exaclty what Jay-Z and Cruz's new representation will ask for, but we can bet they won't be handing out any discounts. Cruz appears to be seeking a similar contract to the five-year, $56 million deal Dwayne Bowe got from the Chiefs a month ago.

        This is just media hype and speculation. While acknowledging they don't know, they will tell us anyway.

        Frankly speaking......... I'm with the group who say let him play for 2.8 this year and then adios. The kid is good, but he still drops too many balls to be considered an elite WR at this point in time. I'm sorry, but he's not worth 10 mil a year!
        "I'M ALL FOR IT!"

        John McKay, HC of the 1976 winless TB Buccaneers, when asked by a reporter, how McKay felt, about the execution of his offense.

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        • Originally posted by bansaw View Post
          fyp
          Do you have an actual argument or was that it?

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          • fyp - fixed your post

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            • 17 pages of misconception, speculation and mis-placed anger... God I love this board!!
              I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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              • So first off let me say I'm a huge fan of Victor Cruz. Just like most people on these boards are, but I think overpaying him would be a mistake. I think that if he is asking for 10-11 million per season and refuses to come down to a reasonable amount he needs to be traded after he signs his tender. Would it be nice to have him this season? Yes.. If you're not going to get anything for him though that's a bit of a waste. I'd rather sign Edelman and run with Nicks, Randle, and Edelman and get some draft picks for Cruz.

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                • Originally posted by FBomb View Post
                  17 pages of misconception, speculation and mis-placed anger... God I love this board!!
                  Misconception, speculation and misplaced anger........three of my favorite things!!!
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                    That is the absolute worst way to look at player salaries, lol.

                    Why is that? It paints a pretty clear picture of what the team values - or so it should.

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                    • Originally posted by bansaw View Post
                      didn't see this coming lol

                      the i in team kinda guy
                      You don't mean that
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        Misconception, speculation and misplaced anger........three of my favorite things!!!
                        Says the Pot Stirrer In Chief lol
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        • Originally posted by byron View Post
                          I here what you are saying Rosey....Idk the system of pay in the nfl is out of control..... imo....everybody wants to get all they can get.....and idiots paying guys more than they are worth... there is just not enough money to go around ....pay scale system.
                          No doubt B. The owners (in all sports) are their own worst enemies.

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                          • Originally posted by Iivil View Post
                            So first off let me say I'm a huge fan of Victor Cruz. Just like most people on these boards are, but I think overpaying him would be a mistake. I think that if he is asking for 10-11 million per season and refuses to come down to a reasonable amount he needs to be traded after he signs his tender. Would it be nice to have him this season? Yes.. If you're not going to get anything for him though that's a bit of a waste. I'd rather sign Edelman and run with Nicks, Randle, and Edelman and get some draft picks for Cruz.
                            Should Reese wait or should he just assume we're right and trade him?
                            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                            • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                              Says the Pot Stirrer In Chief lol
                              If the pot doesn't get stirred, everything separates and it all just tastes like crap.
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                                If the pot doesn't get stirred, everything separates and it all just tastes like crap.
                                Now we're getting somewhere = crap
                                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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