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  • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    Why is he greedy?
    Cause he wants too much money more than he is worth. He knows Nicks was hurt and the Giants have other needs. He doesn't need 10 to 11 mil. If he gets that then he has to pay other players that complement him like the O-line other receivers and even the defense. Now if he was asking for about 5 to 6 mil, then that is ok cause that should be in his range. Football is a team sport. Cruz play have to over shadow the other needs and he didn't do that last year.

    I don't care what MM did with the 49ers. Smith wasn't that good of a passer. With MM playin some, Nicks healthy and Cruz not being a known talent and along with some lucky passes gone his way in 011, Cruz had 15 hundred yards. Yet what happened when Nicks was hurt and MM was gone? Cruz did little. Forget those 10 tds. Some of those were against weak opponents but he did nothing when we needed him most. If Nicks does not get back to being a big threat and the other receivers don't step up, our offense could be in big trouble. You gots to count for the Falcon game when Cruz did nothing. What happened when we needed him against the Bengals? If he would did something special in at least one of those games I have mentioned, then give the man the money. Yet 5 mil is right for what he did for two seasons.

    He would be greedy if he is asking for the money in the double digit millions.
    Last edited by Diamondring; 04-07-2013, 11:34 AM. Reason: n

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    • Originally posted by Diamondring View Post
      Cause he wants too much money more than he is worth. He knows Nicks was hurt and the Giants have other needs. He doesn't need 10 to 11 mil. If he gets that then he has to pay other players that complement him like the O-line other receivers and even the defense. Now if he was asking for about 5 to 6 mil, then that is ok cause that should be in his range. Football is a team sport. Cruz play have to over shadow the other needs and he didn't do that last year.

      I don't care what MM did with the 49ers. Smith wasn't that good of a passer. With MM and Nicks playing some and Cruz not being a known talent and along with some lucky passes gone his way in 011, Cruz had 15 hundred yards. Yet what happened when Nicks was hurt and MM was gone? Cruz did little. Forget those 10 tds. Some of those were against weak opponents but he did nothing when we needed him most. If Nicks does not get back to being a big threat and the other receivers don't step up, our offense could be in big trouble. You gots to count for the Falcon game when Cruz did nothing. What happened when we needed him against the Bengals? If he would did something special in at least one of those games I have mentioned, then give the man the money. Yet 5 mil is right for what he did for two seasons.

      He would be greedy if he is asking for the money in the double digit millions.
      Who are we to determine what a player "needs." Cruz has been Eli's most productive receiver for the two years he's played
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
        I know, I was trying to cheer me up. Some of our colleagues must think Dewey was elected
        And most of them won't have any idea who you're talking about!!
        I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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        • Originally posted by Greatone80 View Post
          Ok,greedy is a little strong.I dont blame him for trying to get all the money he can,but when you see guys taking a paycut and stuff for the bigger picture,maybe its not a good idea to 'demand' or asking more money.I still think the 7 mil deal is good.Cruz has to know the giants are cap tight,and they are doing everything they can to sign him.10 mil a year,,,im against that.
          Are you for Snee and Rolle making $7 mil a piece?

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          • Originally posted by FBomb View Post
            And most of them won't have any idea who you're talking about!!
            LOL very true, but I can still see the headline
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
              Who are we to determine what a player "needs." Cruz has been Eli's most productive receiver for the two years he's played
              What you have said has little impact. Say that he gets payed 5 mil a year, he still would get payed more than the other receivers on the team.

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              • Originally posted by Diamondring View Post
                What you have said has little impact. Say that he gets payed 5 mil a year, he still would get payed more than the other receivers on the team.
                He should get paid than other receivers on the team except for maybe 1, Nicks.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • New England does it right, regardless of position....when a guy asks too much based on their budget, they trade him or let him walk. No slot WR is worth $10M per season.....that is a joke. Rams need a slot to replace Amendola.....trade Cruz there, even if you only get a 2nd round choice for him. If the Giants don't trade him now, he will play one year, and be gone without the Giants getting anything......Reese will NEVER allow that to happen.

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                  • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                    Can you trade a player not under contract?
                    Yes, if he signs the tender, or his agent comes to terms with the team he is going to be traded to.....that is usually how its done. The Giants let Cruz's agent negotiate with the other team...once a deal is struck, the trade is made!

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                    • Originally posted by Hooligans View Post
                      New England does it right, regardless of position....when a guy asks too much based on their budget, they trade him or let him walk. No slot WR is worth $10M per season.....that is a joke. Rams need a slot to replace Amendola.....trade Cruz there, even if you only get a 2nd round choice for him. If the Giants don't trade him now, he will play one year, and be gone without the Giants getting anything......Reese will NEVER allow that to happen.
                      You do understand we don't know what Cruz is asking for, right? You should also realize it doesn't matter what he's asking for and, you should also realize Reese doesn't overpay. You can stop worrying, all is good.

                      BTW, you can't trade a player you don't have under contract.
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • What it really boils down to is cruz and his agent has determined his worth. Granite, I feel its a bit high, but I'm not the one calling the shots. The giants org has a price at which they are willing to pay for him, I doubt it's as high as cruz would like, but if he choses not to take the offer so be it. Cruz is a great giant and gave us two season of outstanding play for as cheap as it can come. He deserves to get paid hopefully he goes with a slightly lower salary and stays in blue.
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                        • Originally posted by Hooligans View Post
                          Yes, if he signs the tender, or his agent comes to terms with the team he is going to be traded to.....that is usually how its done. The Giants let Cruz's agent negotiate with the other team...once a deal is struck, the trade is made!
                          Well he hasn't signed anything so how do you trade him?
                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                          • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            He should get paid than other receivers on the team except for maybe 1, Nicks.
                            There is something up with this thread RF. It seems to cause people to post the most nonsensical crap.

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                            • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                              Well he hasn't signed anything so how do you trade him?
                              Great....more logic.
                              I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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                              • Originally posted by Roosevelt View Post
                                There is something up with this thread RF. It seems to cause people to post the most nonsensical crap.
                                I am willing to bet the ones screaming the loudest never read past the title of the OP
                                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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