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  • #16
    Originally posted by WR4Life View Post
    This on the other hand, I worry about. The only thing is, I don't think you can treat the QB any other way than a runner in that situation. Even if he options it off, they usually wait until the last second to do so. It's not like a player could stop in that time.
    If these optoin QB's start getting knocked out of the game the option will last as long as the wildcat
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #17
      Tony Dungy said his method of stopping the option QBs is to keep getting hits on him and if you get enough hits he will slow down all by himself..

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      • #18
        The pistol has NOTHING to do with a QB running or the option.

        They are completely and entirely different things. The pistol is merely a formation where it's a hybrid between the shotgun and I formation. That's it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
          They get a pistol, we get a shotgun
          Bwahaha. Good Morning RF. Sometimes our shotgun is loaded with rat shot instead of loading for bear.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rEaS View Post
            the problem with that strategy is that we'll get scored on constantly while we wait for the 'qb' to get tired.. the best strategy is to just gun for the qb.. to knock off his head even if he hands it off to the RB.. rbs are accustomed to take hits straight on.. qbs no.. plus teams tend to care more when they see their qbs getting knocked around but not so much the rbswe used to see this pistol offense all the time in high school and college.. i hate it cause i feel it's just some lame trickery but you do get a lot of free shots on the qb..
            I think to some extent, you're both right.Play-side DE has to respect the handoff or toss, turning the QB back inside where all the help is.It's as simple as that IMO.But DE's being what they are today ( "pass rush specialist" ), the option exploits them while also disrupting the pass rush.
            my beer drinking team has a football problem

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            • #21
              Remember Miami's wildcat?

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              • #22
                when a team run's the read option have the player who is not blocked (DE) just go get the QB. have the LB take the pitch out back, and have the corner have cont.the DEgoes gets the QB no mater what if he hands off he can get the RB. or just blast the QB.team's do not want there QB hit no matter what team it is..

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by sodbuster View Post
                  when a team run's the read option have the player who is not blocked (DE) just go get the QB. have the LB take the pitch out back, and have the corner have cont.the DEgoes gets the QB no mater what if he hands off he can get the RB. or just blast the QB.team's do not want there QB hit no matter what team it is..
                  Would be great if it was that simple. Unfortunately, there are 8 gaps to defend, and only 7 defenders.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                    Would be great if it was that simple. Unfortunately, there are 8 gaps to defend, and only 7 defenders.
                    but only one ball.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sodbuster View Post
                      but only one ball.
                      Doesnt matter. The ball can still go through 8 gaps.

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                      • #26
                        [QUOTE=slipknottin;736580]Doesnt matter. The ball can still go through 8 gaps.[/QUOTE there are other DT and LB to stop the inside run.. even if the ball is handed off inside the DE tackles the RB. it's when they try to run the pitchout to get outside hit him. last year they had d.ware nuts in the washington/dallas game

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by sodbuster View Post
                          there are other DT and LB to stop the inside run.. even if the ball is handed off inside the DE tackles the RB. it's when they try to run the pitchout to get outside hit him. last year they had d.ware nuts in the washington/dallas game

                          Thats exactly my point, there ARENT enough players to stop the inside run.

                          There are 7 players. There are 8 gaps to defend against the option.

                          Against a normal run there are only 7 gaps to defend.

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                          • #28
                            it uses a DE/ LB/ DB that leaves 8 players for the inside run.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by sodbuster View Post
                              it uses a DE/ LB/ DB that leaves 8 players for the inside run.
                              Yes, you have to commit an extra player into the box to stop the option.

                              Which is why the play action is such a huge threat. Redskins ran a ton of slants last season. Run play action, suck up the LBs and DB who is in the box, then throw it over their heads to a crossing WR.

                              If it was just defending the wildcat, its simple, because there isnt really that big of a passing threat.

                              But RG3, Cam, Wilson, etc. are all very capable throwers.

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                              • #30
                                i know you can't defend just one play for the whole game.the play action was so good becaue of the fakeing rg3 does he is the best at that. i know the passing game is the weak part of this, every defence play has a weakness you can't cove them all.

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