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  • #46
    Originally posted by Shockeystays08 View Post
    So why is he skipping the workouts? Risk of injury? Did he bring a Magic Wand with him last week to Duke to keep him from injury during those workouts? This excuse that he doesn't want to risk injury is a lame one. Once he went to run patterns for Eli last week his not participating because of risk of injury excuse went right out the window.
    You are such a ray of sunshine. What he did at Duke had nothing to do with the NFL or the Giants. He was playing catch with Eli, Nicks, and Murphy. The team would make him sign an injury waiver as a non-contract player. This phase of the program is nothing but strength and conditioning which he can do on his own. Coaches aren't even allowed to be present except for one S&C coach so in terms of what he's missing, very little
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Napstew View Post
      So what. The Cruz lovefest around here is scary...
      Why is it scary?
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #48
        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
        You are such a ray of sunshine. What he did at Duke had nothing to do with the NFL or the Giants. He was playing catch with Eli, Nicks, and Murphy. The team would make him sign an injury waiver as a non-contract player. This phase of the program is nothing but strength and conditioning which he can do on his own. Coaches aren't even allowed to be present except for one S&C coach so in terms of what he's missing, very little
        I've got no problem with him not being there.
        No one remembers who came in second.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by jomo View Post
          I've got no problem with him not being there.
          You and me against the world
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #50
            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
            You and me against the world
            I would have liked him to show up, but it's completely understandable that he didn't. And I find it hard to bear him ill will for it.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
              You are such a ray of sunshine. What he did at Duke had nothing to do with the NFL or the Giants. He was playing catch with Eli, Nicks, and Murphy. The team would make him sign an injury waiver as a non-contract player. This phase of the program is nothing but strength and conditioning which he can do on his own. Coaches aren't even allowed to be present except for one S&C coach so in terms of what he's missing, very little
              Last week all we read was about how great it was Cruz was "working out with Eli and Nicks and Murphy" Now he was just playing catch? Geez give me a break.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Shockeystays08 View Post
                Last week all we read was about how great it was Cruz was "working out with Eli and Nicks and Murphy" Now he was just playing catch? Geez give me a break.
                That's what he was doing and it had nothing to do with the NFL or Giants.

                What was "great" last week was that he was working with Eli. This phase has nothing to do with position skill sets.
                Last edited by RoanokeFan; 04-15-2013, 04:50 PM.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Shockeystays08 View Post
                  Last week all we read was about how great it was Cruz was "working out with Eli and Nicks and Murphy" Now he was just playing catch? Geez give me a break.
                  And it was great that he was working with Eli, et al, as it helps with their chemistry. I sincerely doubt they were working on advanced concepts out there, particularly since the camp is for kids and as such they were doing things aimed to that audience.

                  However, that situation had absolutely nothing to do with the NFL, the Giants, or his contract.

                  This one does.

                  Also, this part of the OTAs is essentially just working out in the weight room. Other than just being around your teammates, there's nothing that he can do there that he can't do somewhere else. He isn't missing any coaching or drills with Eli.

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                  • #54
                    He's not under contract. Why should he be participating in the workouts? lol. People have to work for free/volunteer to be on the Giants now?
                    Last edited by BigBlueAllDay; 04-15-2013, 04:58 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Drez View Post
                      I would have liked him to show up, but it's completely understandable that he didn't. And I find it hard to bear him ill will for it.
                      I wish he'd sign the long term deal and expect him to do that at some point.
                      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                        That's what he was doing and it had nothing to do with the NFL or Giants.

                        What was "great" last week was that he was working with Eli. This phase has nothing to do with position skill sets.
                        The numerous descriptions last week was how great it was that they were working out, working on timing, evaluating where Murphy is ect ect. Now it 's Cruz met Eli at Duke for the benefit of kids and they were just playing catch. I don't have a doubt the benefit of children was involved but how did we go from working out and working on timing to just standing there playing catch? I never claimed Duke was Giants or NFL related. My point was the excuse of injury for not attending this week is lame since he risked injury last week at Duke. But I guess he didn't cause Cruz was running standing still patterns

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Shockeystays08 View Post
                          The numerous descriptions last week was how great it was that they were working out, working on timing, evaluating where Murphy is ect ect. Now it 's Cruz met Eli at Duke for the benefit of kids and they were just playing catch. I don't have a doubt the benefit of children was involved but how did we go from working out and working on timing to just standing there playing catch? I never claimed Duke was Giants or NFL related. My point was the excuse of injury for not attending this week is lame since he risked injury last week at Duke. But I guess he didn't cause Cruz was running standing still patterns
                          Cruz would have had to sign an injury waiver to participate at the TIMEX Performance Center. That would not be a smart thing for him to do at this point in time.
                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by DVision View Post
                            Now I'm getting confused! Who's being sarcastic and who's not?
                            People can also act sarcastic yet they ment what they say.

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                            • #59
                              Cruz did the right thing no matter what cause he is worry about his future.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                                Cruz would be ill advised to sign the injury waiver required of players not under contract.
                                Agreed!
                                Players come and go on the Free Agency Merry-Go-Round, but the N.Y. Giants will always be here!

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