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  • #16
    Originally posted by Drez View Post
    If TC benched him because of fumbling, then he wouldn't have been returning kicks.
    Please don't introduce facts into this discussion. You will confuse half the participants.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Drez View Post
      If TC benched him because of fumbling, then he wouldn't have been returning kicks.
      Well he definitely benched him for the fumble. Yes he was returning KO's, but he was out of the offensive game plan, which he was clearly in week 1.
      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
        Well he definitely benched him for the fumble. Yes he was returning KO's, but he was out of the offensive game plan, which he was clearly in week 1.
        Can you say for certain that he was part of the gameplan, outside of wanting to see what he was capable of in a meaningful live game?

        Also, I don't doubt that in the Cowboys' game and probably the next week he was in the proverbial doghouse. However, the notion that the fumble was something that kept him from getting touches most of the season is laughable.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
          Well he definitely benched him for the fumble. Yes he was returning KO's, but he was out of the offensive game plan, which he was clearly in week 1.
          My point exactly. TC over-reacts to rookie mistakes. I don't see his treatment of Wilson as some "grooming" as suggested

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Drez View Post
            Can you say for certain that he was part of the gameplan, outside of wanting to see what he was capable of in a meaningful live game?

            Also, I don't doubt that in the Cowboys' game and probably the next week he was in the proverbial doghouse. However, the notion that the fumble was something that kept him from getting touches most of the season is laughable.
            Wilson was benched because of the fumble. Not sure if that lingered with TC, but the media clearly ran with teh "doghouse" headlines.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by uther99 View Post
              Wilson was benched because of the fumble. Not sure if that lingered with TC, but the media clearly ran with teh "doghouse" headlines.
              Yeah, because media headlines are great places to look for objective perspectives.

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              • #22
                Wilson learned a lot from the fumble in the 1st game of the season!

                I would never wish that happened to him but it may have been for the better!

                he was safe with the ball from that point in a limited role during last season!

                I believe and ive said Wilson will be better than both Martin (TB) and Richardson CLE) in the end.

                I expect Wilson will be HUGE in the Giants offense!
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Drez View Post
                  That he can't pass a physical because he had surgery (again) this offseason?

                  Wilson's "mistakes" might lead to our franchise QB getting injured. TC was in his right to sit him until he believed that Wilson could handle the pass pro duties. If Wilson not getting carries was the result of the fumble, then there would be no way that TC would have let him return kicks.
                  You're right about this one. You need only look at what happened to Steve Young when the rookie Lawrence Phillips missed his assignment- it was "turn your head away" nasty.
                  Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                  http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                    At VT, all he had to do was "run" and he excelled. The NFL is not as one dimensional and we watched Wilson flounder some at blocking and pre-snap reads. Not all that surprising. While many here mourned his "benching" it is all the more amazing that he set the record for all purpose yards in a single game. He will be better prepared this season and, I hope, will share the load with Brown.
                    He just needs to block lower! He fell on his butt that time because he was too high, plain and simple. Look at bradshaw, he practically goes so low it looks like hes attacking your ankles lol

                    And further to the OP, what about Tom's loyalty to Diehl? I know, I know, that beaten horse is now dust from the skeletal remains. But still, is the durability really that valuable??? I dont see any genius there, just bad luck that Locklear had that horrific, possibly career ending injury
                    Last edited by BigBlue wins; 04-23-2013, 09:55 PM.

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                    • #25
                      I'm all for giving DD a retirement party When we have a good experienced replacement. I'm guessing TC feels the same way. With the cap restrictions there was not too much they could do to address that situation.Regarding Wilson, I never said he was a bad apple just that he will be very hungry and have a chip on his shoulder because of his limited role on O last season. Beside the fumble, it was clear that the team had little confidence he was ready to protect our franchise QB.Anyway, Wildon did an amazing job on ST and I'm stoked to see what he can do on O this year!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by PennState1 View Post
                        I'm all for giving DD a retirement party When we have a good experienced replacement. I'm guessing TC feels the same way. With the cap restrictions there was not too much they could do to address that situation.
                        Makes you wonder what the staff really thinks of Cordle

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                          The fact that Reese cut Bradshaw tells me he has faith in the Brown/Wilson combo...
                          The fact that Bradshaw still doesn't have a job is jaw dropping.
                          WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Drez View Post
                            Can you say for certain that he was part of the gameplan, outside of wanting to see what he was capable of in a meaningful live game?

                            Also, I don't doubt that in the Cowboys' game and probably the next week he was in the proverbial doghouse. However, the notion that the fumble was something that kept him from getting touches most of the season is laughable.
                            Well he was on the field, carrying the ball early in game 1 of the season.
                            Then he fumbled.....
                            Then we didn't see him in much of anything else on offense except mop up duty until much later in the season.

                            No I can't say for sure but 1 + 1 would have to be something other than 2, in order for me to interpret it in any other way.

                            Now...Do you really believe TC would decide that he was only going to carry the ball early in game 1, and then not see him carry the ball early in any more games until much later in the season.......and NOT be influenced by the fumble?

                            We were talking about those things that are laughable.........
                            Last edited by Morehead State; 04-23-2013, 11:13 PM.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by TheAnalyst View Post
                              The fact that Bradshaw still doesn't have a job is jaw dropping.
                              How is it jaw dropping. He can't even pass a physical at this point. As such, he can't even sign a contract.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BigBlue wins View Post
                                Makes you wonder what the staff really thinks of Cordle
                                I know that Cordle delivers the best block in the back in the entire NFL, period! As far as us seeing the "genius" of TC in regard to the handling of Mr. Wilson. Ahem! Come on, we've seen this TC dance before: " You fumble, you sit, simple Go Giants!!

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