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  • #31
    Originally posted by kbusch22 View Post
    Alright, I'll play. This is of course barring injuries (which sadly seem to be inevitable in training camp and pre-season).

    QB (2): Eli Manning, Ryan Nassib

    With roster spots at a premium, I don't see 3 QBs making the roster. In all reality, the season is done if Eli goes down whether the backup is Carr or Nassib. This is true for any team with a superstar QB. Nassib is kept on to develop. Carr or another veteran could be signed off the street in mid-season if the unthinkable were to happen.

    RB (4): David Wilson, Andre Brown, Ryan Torain, Da'Rel Scott

    Wilson and Brown are obviously the top two options out of the backfield - and I will bring Torain back into a fold as a veteran presence. That leaves Scott and Michael Cox to compete for the 4th spot, and early on I'm inclined to go with Scott since he can help on special teams and Cox is eligible for the practice squad.

    FB (1): Henry Hynoski

    This is obvious. Hynoski rules.

    WR (6): Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Rueben Randle, Louis Murphy, Jerrel Jernigan, Kris Adams

    The first five figure to be locks, even Jernigan. I don't think the Giants are willing to give up on him yet, and with Wilson now being the starting RB I think Jernigan will get the first crack at being the primary kick returner. I do think there will be 6 WR's and I admittedly don't know much about any of them, so I'll just go with Adams for now as he's got some limited regular season exposure.

    TE (3): Brandon Myers, Bear Pascoe, Adrien Robinson

    No surprises here. I'd be interested to see if they actually activate Robinson this year and give him a chance to work his way into the passing game.

    OL (9): Will Beatty, Kevin Boothe, David Baas, Chris Snee, David Diehl, Justin Pugh, Jim Cordle, James Brewer, Brandon Mosley

    The first four are locked in to starting jobs. Although most people on here want him gone, I don't see Diehl being released at this point. Barring somebody else really stepping it up in camp I believe Diehl will be the starting RT again. Pugh will obviously make the team, and Cordle is the primary backup at G and C. I don't think they are ready to give up on Brewer. Mosley was a 4th round pick and didn't get a chance to play last year, so I think they'll give him a chance and have him get his work in all along the line during camp. Eric Herman goes to the practice squad.

    TOTAL OFFENSE: 25

    DE (4): Justin Tuck, Jason Pierre-Paul, Mathias Kiwanuka, Damontre Moore


    The first four will be there without question, but unfortunately based on the numbers and needs of other positions I think that might be all they have room for. I do think those four could be an excellent rotation, though. Maybe Adrian Tracy should go back to LB in pre-season? It would help his chances. Adewale Ojomo can hopefully be snuck onto the practice squad - he would be eligible despite being on the 53 all of last year since he was only active for one game.

    DT (5): Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins, Mike Patterson, Johnathan Hankins, Marvin Austin

    There are currently 7 DTs who could potentially make the roster, but with the numbers game as it is I believe at least two will be cut. I'm giving Marvin Austin one more chance. He was only a second round pick two years ago and it's not the Giants style to cut guys like that so early. Shaun Rogers and Markus Kuhn are the casualties - sadly Kuhn barely missed out on being practice squad eligible.

    LB (6): Keith Rivers, Dan Connor, Jacquain Williams, Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich, Alonzo Tweedy

    The first five will be on the team. Given the current state of the roster it's rather slim pickings for the final LB spot - but I'm actually going to go with Tweedy who is a LB/S hybrid. He was great with special teams in West Virginia, and so if he displays those skills in pre-season I have no doubt Coughlin will find a way to get him onto the roster.

    CB (5): Corey Webster, Prince Amukamara, Jayron Hosley, Terrell Thomas, Aaron Ross

    This is a big year for Prince and Hosley - the Giants badly need them to stay on the field this year and to step up. Without that, it could be a long season. I'll put Thomas on the 53 for now in hopes that he's finally fully healed and ready to go. If he starts on PUP or the short-term IR, I've got enough defensive backs where the Giants might want to use Thomas' freed up spot keep somebody at another position, such as Tracy.

    S (5): Antrel Rolle, Stevie Brown, Ryan Mundy, Will Hill, Cooper Taylor

    I'm pretty confident in all of these guys making the team. Taylor beats out Tyler Sash for the final spot as the Giants seem to be really high on Taylor. With his height it would be great if he can help out with the Giants' major issues on covering TEs.

    TOTAL DEFENSE: 25

    K (1): Josh Brown
    P (1): Steve Weatherford
    LS (1): Zak DeOssie


    There's really no debate about this group. I know the Giants signed David Buehler as well, but I really think that was an emergency move since they didn't know if they'd bring Tynes back or what other kickers would be available. Brown would have to have a horrendous pre-season to not make the roster.

    TOTAL SPECIAL TEAMS: 3

    TOTAL: 53
    The Linebacker from Georgia State rather than Tweedy
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    • #32
      Originally posted by TheBookOfEli View Post
      Now is NBA playoff time! Go NY GO NY GO!!!
      We better pick it up. Not looking to good right now.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by kbusch22 View Post
        Alright, I'll play. This is of course barring injuries (which sadly seem to be inevitable in training camp and pre-season).

        QB (2): Eli Manning, Ryan Nassib

        With roster spots at a premium, I don't see 3 QBs making the roster. In all reality, the season is done if Eli goes down whether the backup is Carr or Nassib. This is true for any team with a superstar QB. Nassib is kept on to develop. Carr or another veteran could be signed off the street in mid-season if the unthinkable were to happen.

        RB (4): David Wilson, Andre Brown, Ryan Torain, Da'Rel Scott

        Wilson and Brown are obviously the top two options out of the backfield - and I will bring Torain back into a fold as a veteran presence. That leaves Scott and Michael Cox to compete for the 4th spot, and early on I'm inclined to go with Scott since he can help on special teams and Cox is eligible for the practice squad.

        FB (1): Henry Hynoski

        This is obvious. Hynoski rules.

        WR (6): Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Rueben Randle, Louis Murphy, Jerrel Jernigan, Kris Adams

        The first five figure to be locks, even Jernigan. I don't think the Giants are willing to give up on him yet, and with Wilson now being the starting RB I think Jernigan will get the first crack at being the primary kick returner. I do think there will be 6 WR's and I admittedly don't know much about any of them, so I'll just go with Adams for now as he's got some limited regular season exposure.

        TE (3): Brandon Myers, Bear Pascoe, Adrien Robinson

        No surprises here. I'd be interested to see if they actually activate Robinson this year and give him a chance to work his way into the passing game.

        OL (9): Will Beatty, Kevin Boothe, David Baas, Chris Snee, David Diehl, Justin Pugh, Jim Cordle, James Brewer, Brandon Mosley

        The first four are locked in to starting jobs. Although most people on here want him gone, I don't see Diehl being released at this point. Barring somebody else really stepping it up in camp I believe Diehl will be the starting RT again. Pugh will obviously make the team, and Cordle is the primary backup at G and C. I don't think they are ready to give up on Brewer. Mosley was a 4th round pick and didn't get a chance to play last year, so I think they'll give him a chance and have him get his work in all along the line during camp. Eric Herman goes to the practice squad.

        TOTAL OFFENSE: 25

        DE (4): Justin Tuck, Jason Pierre-Paul, Mathias Kiwanuka, Damontre Moore


        The first four will be there without question, but unfortunately based on the numbers and needs of other positions I think that might be all they have room for. I do think those four could be an excellent rotation, though. Maybe Adrian Tracy should go back to LB in pre-season? It would help his chances. Adewale Ojomo can hopefully be snuck onto the practice squad - he would be eligible despite being on the 53 all of last year since he was only active for one game.

        DT (5): Linval Joseph, Cullen Jenkins, Mike Patterson, Johnathan Hankins, Marvin Austin

        There are currently 7 DTs who could potentially make the roster, but with the numbers game as it is I believe at least two will be cut. I'm giving Marvin Austin one more chance. He was only a second round pick two years ago and it's not the Giants style to cut guys like that so early. Shaun Rogers and Markus Kuhn are the casualties - sadly Kuhn barely missed out on being practice squad eligible.

        LB (6): Keith Rivers, Dan Connor, Jacquain Williams, Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich, Alonzo Tweedy

        The first five will be on the team. Given the current state of the roster it's rather slim pickings for the final LB spot - but I'm actually going to go with Tweedy who is a LB/S hybrid. He was great with special teams in West Virginia, and so if he displays those skills in pre-season I have no doubt Coughlin will find a way to get him onto the roster.

        CB (5): Corey Webster, Prince Amukamara, Jayron Hosley, Terrell Thomas, Aaron Ross

        This is a big year for Prince and Hosley - the Giants badly need them to stay on the field this year and to step up. Without that, it could be a long season. I'll put Thomas on the 53 for now in hopes that he's finally fully healed and ready to go. If he starts on PUP or the short-term IR, I've got enough defensive backs where the Giants might want to use Thomas' freed up spot keep somebody at another position, such as Tracy.

        S (5): Antrel Rolle, Stevie Brown, Ryan Mundy, Will Hill, Cooper Taylor

        I'm pretty confident in all of these guys making the team. Taylor beats out Tyler Sash for the final spot as the Giants seem to be really high on Taylor. With his height it would be great if he can help out with the Giants' major issues on covering TEs.

        TOTAL DEFENSE: 25

        K (1): Josh Brown
        P (1): Steve Weatherford
        LS (1): Zak DeOssie


        There's really no debate about this group. I know the Giants signed David Buehler as well, but I really think that was an emergency move since they didn't know if they'd bring Tynes back or what other kickers would be available. Brown would have to have a horrendous pre-season to not make the roster.

        TOTAL SPECIAL TEAMS: 3

        TOTAL: 53
        You make good points. there's only a couple things I disagree with:

        -I just don't see 6 WR taken if the absolute WORST on our chart is Jernigan (a guy that could probably get significant playing time and a 600-700 yard season on a team that actually needs a slot WR). And yes, I consider Jernigan a lock, because if God forbid anything happened to Cruz, Jernigan could, uhh, "slot" right in (sorry about the ****ty pun)

        -I can't see us keeping Austin any longer. It's time to cut our losses. Kuhn has already produced more in his short career than Austin ever did (and he's a 7th rounder to Austin's 2nd), so I'm ready to cut ties with Austin, especially given the metric ton of talent we have at the DT position.

        -I don't really know much about Tweedy, which is why I kept Kiwi at OLB. I wanted to keep Tracy and/or Ojomo on the team, and with JPP, Tuck, and Moore pretty much locks, it's kind of hard to fit them in if Kiwi is taking up a roster spot at that position, whereas the only strong side LB we have is Rivers, who has yet to play 16 games in a season. Kiwi is the only other option we have there that is serviceable IMO.

        -I can't see us taking just 5 CB with the way they drop like flies around here, especially so if we have injury-prone guys like Prince and TT taking up spots.

        -I didn't realize cooper was such a hot commodity right now. I'm willing to wait and see who wins the camp battle between him and sash.

        I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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        • #34
          Not sure if Hankins or Kuhn will be ahead of Cullen Jenkins on the depth chart

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          • #35
            I think Eric Herman makes the squad.. Very underrated guy playing at Ohio..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
              You make good points. there's only a couple things I disagree with:

              -I just don't see 6 WR taken if the absolute WORST on our chart is Jernigan (a guy that could probably get significant playing time and a 600-700 yard season on a team that actually needs a slot WR). And yes, I consider Jernigan a lock, because if God forbid anything happened to Cruz, Jernigan could, uhh, "slot" right in (sorry about the ****ty pun)

              -I can't see us keeping Austin any longer. It's time to cut our losses. Kuhn has already produced more in his short career than Austin ever did (and he's a 7th rounder to Austin's 2nd), so I'm ready to cut ties with Austin, especially given the metric ton of talent we have at the DT position.

              -I don't really know much about Tweedy, which is why I kept Kiwi at OLB. I wanted to keep Tracy and/or Ojomo on the team, and with JPP, Tuck, and Moore pretty much locks, it's kind of hard to fit them in if Kiwi is taking up a roster spot at that position, whereas the only strong side LB we have is Rivers, who has yet to play 16 games in a season. Kiwi is the only other option we have there that is serviceable IMO.

              -I can't see us taking just 5 CB with the way they drop like flies around here, especially so if we have injury-prone guys like Prince and TT taking up spots.

              -I didn't realize cooper was such a hot commodity right now. I'm willing to wait and see who wins the camp battle between him and sash.
              I honestly can't remember the last time the Giants only carried 5 WR on the roster. They've had 6 WR as long as I can remember. Even with all of the injuries last year and carrying 4 TE's for parts of the season, they still found a way to keep 6 WR all year long (Nicks, Cruz, Randle, Jernigan, Hixon, Barden).

              If it were up to me, I would keep Kuhn over Austin. But I based my roster based on who I see the Giants keeping as of today. And I've just read so many times that the Giants are hesitant to not give high round draft picks a few years. If Clint Sintim got 3 years, I think Austin will get 3 years. However, in thinking about it - Kuhn's injury was pretty major and happened late in the season. Maybe he actually starts on the PUP list? A decision to dump Austin can happen at a later date.

              I kept Kiwi at DE because Reese has been pretty adamant that that's where he'll be spending most of his playing time next year. While I can see him dropping back into coverage on passing downs, I don't think they'll shift him back to LB full time unless they're certain that Moore can fill Osi's shoes.

              I had to go with 5 CB just because I ran out of space. The only other place I can see saving a spot is DT, in which case the Kuhn/Austin argument would become moot because I believe one of them would be cut. I'm pretty confident Patterson will make it. I figure if a CB goes down during the game, they can have Rolle fill in for the rest of the game since there are plenty of safeties. I imagine they'll keep at least 2 CBs on the practice squad so they can make a roster move.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Carter.525 View Post
                I think Eric Herman makes the squad.. Very underrated guy playing at Ohio..
                that highlight film was entertaining of Munster, he was blocking for Uncle Fester

                I'd like to see him in a couple snaps on running plays for Wilson, wilson will have some nice holes to run through.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BrianK01 View Post
                  Maybe they won't be "starting" but they have the potential to make some major contributions
                  Jonathan Hankins looks like he can clog up the running lanes pretty good...
                  I agree, Hankins on the other hand needs some conditioning as many people have said, I trust the staff to take care of that.

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                  • #39
                    Question ...I could be wrong but I thought I read something about if you have a rookie QB you can expand your roster to 54 to keep 3 QBs?.......If that is true It would open another spot.. I also think...from what I read that cooper jumps ahead of sash.....Sash's only value is special teams...they are saying cooper can play special teams and is almost big and fast enough to be the 3rd linebacker/3rd safety on nickel and dime packages...Much like Grant used to
                    "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

                    1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by fansince69 View Post
                      Question ...I could be wrong but I thought I read something about if you have a rookie QB you can expand your roster to 54 to keep 3 QBs?.......If that is true It would open another spot.. I also think...from what I read that cooper jumps ahead of sash.....Sash's only value is special teams...they are saying cooper can play special teams and is almost big and fast enough to be the 3rd linebacker/3rd safety on nickel and dime packages...Much like Grant used to
                      Sash was a playmaker at Iowa, i wouldn't write him off yet. He really hasn't had a chance to start, give him a full game and you'll see him coming up from the secondary making nice tackles, and INT's. I loved him coming out of college, and thought they shoulda drafted Micah Hyde for a reunion lol

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by BlessedinBlue22 View Post
                        Sash was a playmaker at Iowa, i wouldn't write him off yet. He really hasn't had a chance to start, give him a full game and you'll see him coming up from the secondary making nice tackles, and INT's. I loved him coming out of college, and thought they shoulda drafted Micah Hyde for a reunion lol
                        I guess we will see...so far in my opinion Sash looks to be a good special teams player and nothing more.....Ive read some really good things about Cooper
                        "When I was 15, I could not believe how dumb my father was.....when I was 25, I could not believe how much he had learned in 10 years"

                        1st to use the phrase "In Reese we trust"

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                        • #42
                          So none of you think Justin Trattou makes the roster?
                          Last edited by FishinTheSalt; 04-28-2013, 04:17 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                            come on, nobody's insulting my lineup? What is this bullcrap?
                            No need to insult it. I think it's pretty accurate. The only twitch - RB Cox. He showed nothing at Michigan and almost nothing at UMass. Practice squad is a possibility tho.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Toadofsteel View Post
                              come on, nobody's insulting my lineup? What is this bullcrap?
                              I hope they don't keep three QBs. Feel better?
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • #45
                                These roster predictions are ridiculous. Nobody here has factored in Sandcastle.

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