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  • #46
    Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    He wasn't an upgrade over Diehl when he was playing.
    dude what team were you watching? I believe it was monday night football that we benhced Locklear & diehl came back from injury, and even the announcers questioned the coaching call to bench locklear because things got noticably worse with diehl back in the line up...

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    • #47
      Originally posted by myles2424 View Post
      dude what team were you watching? I believe it was monday night football that we benhced Locklear & diehl came back from injury, and even the announcers questioned the coaching call to bench locklear because things got noticably worse with diehl back in the line up...
      At the end of the season PFF ranked them both and they were almost identical in terms of rank. They acknowledged the final result was surprising.
      “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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      • #48
        Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
        At the end of the season PFF ranked them both and they were almost identical in terms of rank. They acknowledged the final result was surprising.
        It isn't all that surprising to be honest. Way too many fans here seem to think that Locklears perceived 'quickness' advantage over Diehl somehow equated to increased production at the position.Which in reality isn't true at all, but you know how things go here.....

        edit: spelling
        Last edited by njg85m; 05-03-2013, 02:19 PM.

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        • #49
          has nothing to do with Locklear's quickness..his pass blocking was much better than Diehl's at RT

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          • #50
            Originally posted by njg85m View Post
            It isn't all that surprising to be honest. Way too many fans here seem to think that Locklears perceived 'quickness' advantage over Dieh somehowl equated to increased production at the position.Which in reality isn't true at all, but you know how things go here.....
            Most fans look at sacks as the only barometer to measure for Olinemen. The truth is hurries are far more frequent and less noticeable to the naked eye. If Pugh can start, it doesn't matter. If he can't, Diehl may start because Locklear's injury was serious and it wold not surprise me if his career was over. We have Brewer, McCants, and Mosley but none of them have shown any flashes that I can recall.
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • #51
              Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
              has nothing to do with Locklear's quickness..his pass blocking was much better than Diehl's at RT
              And again, every available statistic disagrees with your opinion.

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              • #52
                McCants......OH man, he may be the worst one out of the whole bunch. OMG was he awful in pre-seaon.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by njg85m View Post
                  And again, every available statistic disagrees with your opinion.
                  where are these statistics that your claiming and not posting?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
                    McCants......OH man, he may be the worst one out of the whole bunch. OMG was he awful in pre-seaon.
                    I hope at least one of them has improved.
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                      I hope at least one of them has improved.
                      I think Brewer and Mosley will be ok. Brewer will make a nice backup RT and Mosley might challenge for a guard position next season

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
                        I think Brewer and Mosley will be ok. Brewer will make a nice backup RT and Mosley might challenge for a guard position next season
                        I am expecting Diehl and possibly Snee to be gone next season. I hope you're right about Brewer and Mosley.
                        “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                        • #57
                          krunch-ur opinion of DD and Lockler is dead wrong, esp the "DD is a better T than Lockler ever was or will be and were the same last yr"


                          For starters, Lockler was an 8 yr starting vet for Seattle iirc, he was their RT that SB season. 2nd, one season he played LT when their staple LT was hurt for the year. 3rd, while the PFF grade between the 2 individually may have not been drastic (altho still in Locklers favor), the line as a unit performed better when Lockler was in in a majority of the aspects. If u go by PFF grade, DD ended up having a better yr than several OT's that he simply did not outperform. IIRC, it was enigma or another respected poster here who raised the credibility issue for that 1 specific aspect and challeneged the validity, but it was a long time ago.
                          Point is, DD is a great Giant. that said, id take a healthy Lockler over DD at this point any day of the week and twice on sunday

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            I am expecting Diehl and possibly Snee to be gone next season. I hope you're right about Brewer and Mosley.
                            that is exactly what I was thinking. Snee already hinted at possible retirement and Diehl just doesn't look like the same player anymore.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
                              that is exactly what I was thinking. Snee already hinted at possible retirement and Diehl just doesn't look like the same player anymore.
                              Diehl will be OK in rotation and Snee needs to start thinking about retirement. He hinted at that when he went to the Pro Bowl saying he may not have another chance.
                              “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by DownWitJPP View Post
                                where are these statistics that your claiming and not posting?
                                Just looking at PFF as Roanoke mentioned for example. It's a pretty tricky site to navigate through, but if you spend a little time you can find all of the information there. In fact, they even mention how in real time they would think DD would score much lower than he actually does, but when the plays are reviewed he is not at all as bad as some fans made him out to be. He scores similarly to Locklear last year. There is no huge gap.

                                Clearly we need a long term solution and neither of them are it -- But I'm just pointing out that this idea that Locklear performed at a much better level than Diehl did last year is absolutely false and has no basis in truth.

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