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  • #16
    Originally posted by IrishMike357 View Post

    Bradshaw, DeOssie, Manningham to name three. I know facts don't matter though.
    Manningham that's debatable and that was also all the way back in 2008 but yea your right about AB

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    • #17
      Travis Beckum
      Ramses Barden
      Clint Sintim
      Marvin Austin
      Jay Bromley
      Jayron Hosley

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      • #18
        yeeesh

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        • #19
          It mostly speaks to that terrible string of bad drafts.
          The past few drafts have delivered more good players. It is that simple.
          No one remembers who came in second.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by cpirish View Post
            I'd have to see other teams numbers.
            it seems to indicate that we do not re-sign many of our draft picks after their rookie contracts.
            think about all the career ending injuries to guys like Nicks, David Wilson, Kenny Phillips etc.. then you have the missed draft picks like Randle and Hosley, Marvin Austin

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            • #21
              Originally posted by IrishMike357 View Post

              Bradshaw, DeOssie, Manningham to name three. I know facts don't matter though.
              Add the entire 2016 draft. Every player is showing signs of great potential.
              The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by shocknaweny View Post

                Manningham that's debatable and that was also all the way back in 2008 but yea your right about AB

                Manningham debatable?

                Did you not watch the 2011 playoffs?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by IrishMike357 View Post
                  The Pats have 12 players from 2013 and earlier.
                  The Broncos have 5
                  The Browns have 3
                  The Jets have 5
                  The Falcons have 10
                  Seahawks 7
                  Dolphins 4
                  Skins 6
                  Boys 11
                  Eagles 9
                  Packers 11

                  Make what you want of these numbers. As for us, if you look back at the 11, 12 and 13 draft classes they are probably some of the worst ones of Reese's time here so it is not a surprise. It's also probably why we have had some really bad years here.

                  Now if we look a little more in depth and take the Patriots as an example. They are not having these great draft classes where they resign 4 guys. In fact of their 12 guys the most from 1 draft class is 2 ('09, '10, '11 and '12). We are on our way to doing the same thing with our recent draft classes. At least two guys (ODB and Richburg) from 2014 will make it past their rookie deals, probably Kennard also. Bromley and Berhe are on the fence. 2015 looks like it should have 2 with Collins being a lock and then some combo of hart, Flowers or OO improving enough in the next two years. Then obviously 2016 looks amazing, although it's very early.
                  I think the difference is that while the Pats let go of a bunch of guys, it's because a good chunk of those guys just resigned with other teams for more money.

                  We're not resigning guys, and then they're out of the league. Showing the kind of quality we were trying to go into battle with during those years.

                  We made a big deal out of losing Linval Joseph to a big contract, the Pats have guys like that every year. We had one in a decade.

                  All Hail The New York Giants!!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by CRF11504 View Post


                    Manningham debatable?

                    Did you not watch the 2011 playoffs?
                    That was a great catch for sure
                    I wouldn't call his Giants career a roaring success though

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                    • #25
                      The average NFL career is 3.3 years, so this is not surprising

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by shocknaweny View Post

                        That was a great catch for sure
                        I wouldn't call his Giants career a roaring success though

                        Forget his TD vs SF in the NFC championship game?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by barran21 View Post
                          The average NFL career is 3.3 years, so this is not surprising
                          We're obviously one of the teams keeping that number so low.

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