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  • This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

    Cut
    Brandon Jacobs
    DJ Ware
    Rocky Bernard
    then any dead wood we have

    Re-Sign
    Mario Manningham
    Terrell Thomas
    Jon Goff
    Jake Ballard
    Aaron Ross
    (I imagine we can get back the latter 4 fairly cheap and/or decently priced)

    Sign:
    Demetrius Bell
    Mike Tolbert
    Red Bryant
    Dan Connor

    Draft
    Dont'a Hightower ILB


    Cordy Glenn G
    LaMichael James RB
    Don Barclay OT
    D'Anton Lynn CB

    Restructure Contrcts for
    Eli Manning
    Chris Canty
    Antrel Rolle
    Chris Snee


    The resignings and FA shouldnt cost too too much, but idk what our cap space looks like and how much we can free up

  • #2
    Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

    I wouldn't sign any free agent RB's. Tolbert is nice but no way am I signing him and drafting a RB.

    Love Cordy Glenn

    Doubt the mentioned Giants FA will cost that much. Manningham might though.

    No doubt Rolle and Canty need to restructure. Their cap numbers really spike.

    Also - let's not get blindsided if JPP and Cruz make the Pro-Bowl and have their agents demand raises.

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    • #3
      Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

      If Jacobs is cut we better get another good RB. No way Bradshaw makes it through an entire season carrying the full load. I would let Ross go. T2 and Goff resign depending upon how the doctors view their recoveries, crossing my fingers they are OK to return 100%. Canty and Rolle should restructure, both have played OK but no where close to what they are getting paid.

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      • #4
        Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?



        [quote user="True 2 Blue"]Cut
        Brandon Jacobs
        DJ Ware
        Rocky Bernard
        then any dead wood we have

        Re-Sign
        Mario Manningham
        Terrell Thomas
        Jon Goff
        Jake Ballard
        Aaron Ross
        (I imagine we can get back the latter 4 fairly cheap and/or decently priced)

        Sign:
        Demetrius Bell
        Mike Tolbert
        Red Bryant
        Dan Connor

        Draft
        Dont'a Hightower ILB
        Cordy Glenn G
        LaMichael James RB
        Don Barclay OT
        D'Anton Lynn CB

        Restructure Contrcts for
        Eli Manning
        Chris Canty
        Antrel Rolle
        Chris Snee


        The resignings and FA shouldnt cost too too much, but idk what our cap space looks like and how much we can free up
        [/quote]




        I don't necessarily cut BJ, but would keep him around for one more season to see if the O-line can come together better and / or add some improvement there. Unless we draft a highly touted RB, then I'd cut him to make cap space. Cut Ware and Bernard.




        I don't see us resigning MM because he could probably get # 2 WR money from another team. It'll be time for Barden to step up as the # 3. TT we could probably get for a good 1-yr deal considering his major injuries. Goff and Ballard will be retained at fair prices. Time to part ways with Ross.




        In terms of Dan Connor, just get a decent solid LB in the mold of Pierce (and who led like him too would be nice). Doesn't need to be fancy, just solid. Trade / release Osi, move Kiwi back to DE and get a real LB. In terms of other FA's, just sign some solid starters and capable back-ups for depth (all of this depends on our salary cap, of course).




        In terms of drafting -- always take the best talent available. They can either start, or provide depth.

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        • #5
          Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?



          [quote user="TroyArcher"]If Jacobs is cut we better get another good RB. No way Bradshaw makes it through an entire season carrying the full load. I would let Ross go. T2 and Goff resign depending upon how the doctors view their recoveries, crossing my fingers they are OK to return 100%. Canty and Rolle should restructure, both have played OK but no where close to what they are getting paid.[/quote]




          It bothers me that we kept Canty over Cofield and they both make the same money -- Cofield actually makes a little less.

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          • #6
            Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

            [quote user="True 2 Blue"]Cut
            Brandon Jacobs
            DJ Ware
            Rocky Bernard
            then any dead wood we have

            Re-Sign
            Mario Manningham
            Terrell Thomas
            Jon Goff
            Jake Ballard
            Aaron Ross
            (I imagine we can get back the latter 4 fairly cheap and/or decently priced)

            Sign:
            Demetrius Bell
            Mike Tolbert
            Red Bryant
            Dan Connor

            Draft
            Dont'a Hightower ILB


            Cordy Glenn G
            LaMichael James RB
            Don Barclay OT
            D'Anton Lynn CB

            Restructure Contrcts for
            Eli Manning
            Chris Canty
            Antrel Rolle
            Chris Snee


            The resignings and FA shouldnt cost too too much, but idk what our cap space looks like and how much we can free up
            [/quote]

            Looks like the Cuts you suggest could happen.

            T2 is gone unless he's ready to come back for a very small very incentive laden contract. This is his second catastrophic injury. He's damaged goods. The market wont be great for him so it could happen. I doubt it though.

            Goff I think will be back on relatively cheap

            Manningham I think will ask for more money than we will be willing to pay and will likely be gone.

            Jake Ballard should be back

            Aaron Ross should be a gonner unless he really impresses somebody during this playoff run.

            (No body is getting resigned for a huge contract so whoever thinks he's worth one will have to move on.)

            I haven't educated myself on the draft yet.

            JR doesn't have the stones to approach Eli about restructuring at this point. Eli's monster contract isn't all that big anymore and guys are making more money than him around the league. If Eli doesn't come to JR looking for a bit of boost we'll take that as a W.

            Chris Canty I believe will restructre.
            As will Rolle and Snee.
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            Burier: Yes.

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            • #7
              Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

              [quote user="JJC7301"]

              [quote user="TroyArcher"]If Jacobs is cut we better get another good RB. No way Bradshaw makes it through an entire season carrying the full load. I would let Ross go. T2 and Goff resign depending upon how the doctors view their recoveries, crossing my fingers they are OK to return 100%. Canty and Rolle should restructure, both have played OK but no where close to what they are getting paid.[/quote]




              It bothers me that we kept Canty over Cofield and they both make the same money -- Cofield actually makes a little less.

              [/quote]Linval Joseph actually took over Cofield's spot at the 1-Tech DT.... And he's been doing just as good this season if not better than Cofield last year playing the same position in a better defense
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              • #8
                Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

                [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JJC7301"]


                [quote user="TroyArcher"]If Jacobs is cut we better get another good RB. No way Bradshaw makes it through an entire season carrying the full load. I would let Ross go. T2 and Goff resign depending upon how the doctors view their recoveries, crossing my fingers they are OK to return 100%. Canty and Rolle should restructure, both have played OK but no where close to what they are getting paid.[/quote]




                It bothers me that we kept Canty over Cofield and they both make the same money -- Cofield actually makes a little less.




                [/quote]Linval Joseph actually took over Cofield's spot at the 1-Tech DT.... And he's been doing just as good this season if not better than Cofield last year playing the same position in a better defense
                [/quote]




                I didn't know that, but Cofield was better than Joseph against the run, wasn't he? I don't remember the Giants getting run-on like this against Cofield. Then again, this is the weakest our LB has probably ever been.

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                • #9
                  Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?



                  [quote user="True 2 Blue"]Cut
                  Brandon Jacobs
                  DJ Ware
                  Rocky Bernard
                  then any dead wood we have

                  Re-Sign
                  Mario Manningham
                  Terrell Thomas
                  Jon Goff
                  Jake Ballard
                  Aaron Ross
                  (I imagine we can get back the latter 4 fairly cheap and/or decently priced)

                  Sign:
                  Demetrius Bell
                  Mike Tolbert
                  Red Bryant
                  Dan Connor

                  Draft
                  Dont'a Hightower ILB
                  Cordy Glenn G
                  LaMichael James RB
                  Don Barclay OT
                  D'Anton Lynn CB

                  Restructure Contrcts for
                  Eli Manning
                  Chris Canty
                  Antrel Rolle
                  Chris Snee


                  The resignings and FA shouldnt cost too too much, but idk what our cap space looks like and how much we can free up
                  [/quote]




                  My 2 cents:




                  -I like DJ Ware he is effective at times but very cheap, his performance meets his price tag.




                  -I think they will try to retain BJ but only if he takes a large pay cut and honestly, he might.




                  BUT, if we lose BJ then I am for signing a FA back....but honestly I dont think our run game will change much, they are a good group WHEN the OL is opening it up for them.




                  -We need to draft a LB in the first round flat out. No excuses.




                  TRADE Osi, get some extra picks, use them to get into position to get the LB we want. I will miss Osi, but with Kiwi, Tuck, JPP, Tolly, we dont need him especially at that price.




                  -2nd round we need to get the BPA BUT we need to try and make that agood Offensivetackle. I almost feel we need a Tackle more than a guard. KMack is still servicable but hes old and it has shown this year. I don't think KMack is coming back next year.




                  Our OL will likely look like Beatty, Snee, Boothe, Baas, Deihl, Petrus, Brewer and maybe a guy we draftas possibly making up our OL next year unless we sign a guy.Depending on who we draft, how ready they are, and how ready Brewer is will determine who starts where but Snee, Boothe, Beatty, Baas will all likely start.







                  -Basically we need a tackle more than a guard but we need a LB more than anything.




                  I like Burfict, I think hed be a beast for us as a MLB, another option would be to keep Goff since hes a good run stuffer and has shown progress in coverage and draft Zach Brown. He has some speed, between him and boley they can cover ground with goff stuffing the middle.




                  Burfict would be the right choice if he can keep his attitude in check, the guy would strive here behind our DL hed be a beast. Put some nasty in our LB corps.







                  I see our main needs for draft and FA signings are:




                  1-LB




                  2-OT(KMack is old...it has shown...we need young blood here and fast.)




                  3-TE(someone to go along with Ballard and NOT Travis Beckhum! We need another pass option with the ability to block some)




                  4-OG (with Petrus, Boothe looking good in thier time I dont think the FO will see this as a big need)




                  5-S(I know some think safety isnt a huge need and its not but Sash is ok but his potential seems really limited and we could def use better depth here)




                  6-WR(mario will be gone, im pretty certain. Barden will stay and JJ will progress likely but nothing wrong with drafting another to throw in there for depth etc)




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                  • #10
                    Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

                    Dont forget trading Osi.
                    Let Kareem Mckenzie walk
                    Cut David Diehl.

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                    • #11
                      Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

                      [quote user="JJC7301"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JJC7301"]


                      [quote user="TroyArcher"]If Jacobs is cut we better get another good RB.* No way Bradshaw makes it through an entire season carrying the full load.* I would let Ross go.* T2 and Goff resign depending upon how the doctors view their recoveries, crossing my fingers they are OK to return 100%.* Canty and Rolle should restructure, both have played OK but no where close to what they are getting paid.[/quote]




                      It bothers me that we kept Canty over Cofield and they both make the same money -- Cofield actually makes a little less.




                      [/quote]Linval Joseph actually took over Cofield's spot at the 1-Tech DT.... And he's been doing just as good this season if not better than Cofield last year playing the same position in a better defense
                      [/quote]




                      I didn't know that, but Cofield was better than Joseph against the run, wasn't he?* I don't remember the Giants getting run-on like this against Cofield.* Then again, this is the weakest our LB has probably ever been.

                      [/quote]

                      I think the biggest reason we're getting run on by nearly everyone is because the loss of Jon Goff who was hands down our best run stopper. I was pissed when we lost Barry but Linval has been a pleasant suprise this seaspn
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                      • #12
                        Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

                        Don't feel like going all offseason, but for the draft: Luke Kuechly, Cordy Glenn and Vinny Curry.

                        I love Vinny Curry. I think he is gonna be an incredible player.

                        Cordy Glenn in the second is impossible though. He will be a first round pick.
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                        • #13
                          Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

                          [quote user="True 2 Blue"]Cut
                          Brandon Jacobs
                          DJ Ware
                          Rocky Bernard
                          then any dead wood we have

                          Re-Sign
                          Mario Manningham
                          Terrell Thomas
                          Jon Goff
                          Jake Ballard
                          Aaron Ross
                          (I imagine we can get back the latter 4 fairly cheap and/or decently priced)

                          Sign:
                          Demetrius Bell
                          Mike Tolbert
                          Red Bryant
                          Dan Connor

                          Draft
                          Dont'a Hightower ILB


                          Cordy Glenn G
                          LaMichael James RB
                          Don Barclay OT
                          D'Anton Lynn CB

                          Restructure Contrcts for
                          Eli Manning
                          Chris Canty
                          Antrel Rolle
                          Chris Snee


                          The resignings and FA shouldnt cost too too much, but idk what our cap space looks like and how much we can free up
                          [/quote]

                          I think both Thomas and Manningham are gone. Manningham definitely as i'm guessing he'll command at least 5 million a year. No way we're paying that. Thomas may still be a commodity teams are willing to pay for because he's a CB. Otherwise, TT may still be a Giant.

                          No to FA. Cruz is going to want a pay day eventually.

                          Oh and Rocky Bernard is getting like the league minimum. Cutting him would save us nothing.

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                          • #14
                            Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

                            [quote user="JJC7301"]

                            [quote user="TroyArcher"]If Jacobs is cut we better get another good RB. No way Bradshaw makes it through an entire season carrying the full load. I would let Ross go. T2 and Goff resign depending upon how the doctors view their recoveries, crossing my fingers they are OK to return 100%. Canty and Rolle should restructure, both have played OK but no where close to what they are getting paid.[/quote]




                            It bothers me that we kept Canty over Cofield and they both make the same money -- Cofield actually makes a little less.

                            [/quote]

                            Cofield left. His decision.

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                            • #15
                              Re: This offseason, would his be even remotely possible?

                              [quote user="Firenugget"][quote user="JJC7301"]

                              [quote user="TroyArcher"]If Jacobs is cut we better get another good RB.* No way Bradshaw makes it through an entire season carrying the full load.* I would let Ross go.* T2 and Goff resign depending upon how the doctors view their recoveries, crossing my fingers they are OK to return 100%.* Canty and Rolle should restructure, both have played OK but no where close to what they are getting paid.[/quote]




                              It bothers me that we kept Canty over Cofield and they both make the same money -- Cofield actually makes a little less.

                              [/quote]

                              Cofield left. His decision.
                              [/quote]
                              Cofield left, but he's making less money than Canty and Cofield is a better player.

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