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    Recent ESPN story about the 2007 Patriots I read on the Sportswrath message board.

    The full article goes through the entire season.....I'm reposting the Super Bowl commentary....




    Full story here: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/93...ts-wonder-been

    It's almost as if an asterisk exists: 18-1*. The 2007 Patriots were not only the most entertaining team of the 21st century, not only the most dominant, not only the luckiest and unluckiest, but also the most epically conflicted. They won with selfless class and with a bloodthirsty resolve for running up the score. They won with a historic offense and with an unappreciated defense, the opposite of how they had won Super Bowls. They won as a unified team, yet became a divisive force. They won without cheating, as far as we know, but Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft were fined a combined $750,000 for years of cheating, and so their overall record and the records they set seem tainted in the eyes of some fans, like a home run mark. They won games when Tom Brady threw six touchdown passes and they won games when he threw three interceptions. They won despite -- and under the weight of -- their own winning. They won all of their games in September and October and November and December and January. They won so much that you had to appreciate them, even if you hated them, because you can't discuss the greatest teams in NFL history without mentioning them. In fact, they won so much that some players think that they damn well could have won it all -- if only they had lost.

    Super Bowl XLII: Giants 17, Patriots 14

    Kyle Brady (tight end): "The only practices that we had that we went backwards. We didn't perform the way we were capable. Was it possible that that team was tired? We had to put out so much energy to get to that point maybe we had peaked and maybe we were physically and emotionally drained. The crispness and the sharpness were lacking. Wednesday and Thursday practices are the most critical. [Belichick] brought us up and said, "Fellas, today the Giants got ahead of you." It wasn't just lip service. The standard that was set wasn't matched."

    Hobbs: "I remember [Brady] talking a lot more than he usually did [during media sessions]. He was going out there talking about what he was going to do before he did it. He wasn't that humble guy. It was like [the Giants] threw him out of his game. Giants were talking trash. Tom said something like, "Yeah, we'll see." Kind of a rebuttal. Tom never did that. He always brought it back to the Patriots and what we needed to do. Did that throw him off his game?"

    Evans: "On Saturday, we opted to change hotels. Our hotel was a dump. Way out there. The food was terrible. The beds were awful. The beds stunk."

    The Giants used an array of defensive fronts that the Patriots had never seen before. The offensive line didn't hold up; Brady was sacked five times.

    Brady: "The first play of the game should have been a touchdown. We ran a screen. I turned and threw the ball and didn't see where our running back was and didn't complete the pass. We ended up scoring on that drive anyway, but it took longer than I would have hoped."

    Koppen: "Us as a line, we played our worst game of the year. We played like s--- that game."

    Still, late in the fourth quarter Brady hit Moss on a short touchdown to give New England a 14-10 lead. The game was in Eli Manning's hands. On second-and-5 from midfield with 1:20 left, Manning overthrew an out-route to receiver David Tyree -- right into Samuel's hands.

    Samuel: "I dropped an interception. I think I mistimed the jump. I didn't jump high enough. Maybe if I'd jumped a little higher …"

    On the next play, Manning spun away from the Patriots rush and fired his famous, miraculous pass to Tyree. The Giants scored the game-winning touchdown four plays later, not only pulling off the biggest Super Bowl upset since the Jets beat the Colts but ending the quest for a perfect season.

    Stallworth: "After the Super Bowl, Belichick said, 'We were outcoached. I'm sorry we couldn't win the game for you guys.' "

    Evans: "I was looking at a man who was truly broken."
    Last edited by joemorrisforprez; 07-06-2013, 02:20 PM.
    "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

    "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

  • #2
    very interesting. i want more lol.

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    • #3
      Not for nuthin'.....I mean the Pats were a great team, but they shouldn't have been undefeated. A coaching error by the Ravens gave them a gift victory. I wonder how different the discussions would be if they had come in with that 1 loss.

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      • #4
        Seems like the only one giving the Giants any credit is Belichick.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ebick View Post
          Not for nuthin'.....I mean the Pats were a great team, but they shouldn't have been undefeated. A coaching error by the Ravens gave them a gift victory. I wonder how different the discussions would be if they had come in with that 1 loss.
          Hmm, I've got to disagree there. To me that's like saying the Giants shouldn't have won because Eli almost threw an interception. The Pats won the games they won, and the Giants won the games they won.

          I mean, there are flipside/what-if? moments in every game, but ultimately, they don't matter. What happened, happened.

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          • #6
            This is a great article.
            Mood: WOOF!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
              Hmm, I've got to disagree there. To me that's like saying the Giants shouldn't have won because Eli almost threw an interception. The Pats won the games they won, and the Giants won the games they won.

              I mean, there are flipside/what-if? moments in every game, but ultimately, they don't matter. What happened, happened.
              Exactly so. It's a raw fact of life that most sports fans--at one time or another--have an extremely difficult time accepting.

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              • #8
                great article, and brings up fond memories!:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
                  This is a great article.
                  ........an unusually deep dive with the players who lived it. It would be cool to see a parallel article on the Men in Blue to match up their mindsets.
                  No one remembers who came in second.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jomo View Post
                    ........an unusually deep dive with the players who lived it. It would be cool to see a parallel article on the Men in Blue to match up their mindsets.
                    That would be awesome. Also, I wonder what they were thinking when they faced us again.
                    Mood: WOOF!

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                    • #11
                      i really believe it still haunts them a bit today. it wiould be cool to have a companion article to get the G-men's mindset!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                        Hmm, I've got to disagree there. To me that's like saying the Giants shouldn't have won because Eli almost threw an interception. The Pats won the games they won, and the Giants won the games they won.

                        I mean, there are flipside/what-if? moments in every game, but ultimately, they don't matter. What happened, happened.
                        They were who we thought they were after the regular season finale. lol No team has ever went 18-0 entering the Super bowl. Had they won they would have been labeled the greatest team ever....But they lost so what does that make us???

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                        • #13
                          Where is that poster who created the "We hate you more then you ever can imagine" thread? LOL
                          WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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                          • #14
                            Also, Im tired of that crap about Samuel's "dropped" interception. Remember how Eli got picked off? Yeah, Steve Smith let the ball hit him right in the hands and bounced it into a Pats control, so it was an interception instead of a TD. No one talks about that one though.
                            WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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                              Last edited by TheAnalyst; 07-06-2013, 07:07 PM.
                              WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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