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  • #31
    Originally posted by NephilimGiants View Post

    so those are his passing stats and seahawks still eliminated cowboys from playoffs...how many first downs did russel pick up to save drives? If Eli was in seahawks they would easily be 2-12 right now
    93 yards keep coming up with excuses but you would have had pitchforks out of Eli had those numbers.

    Eli manning and Matt ryanís stats are similar but the falcons were in the playoff race while we are 2-12.

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    • #32
      Makes no difference about RW now. The seahawks will be eliminated from playoff contention next week. Its getting close fellas, just one more loss. Then its time to go after the Chosen One. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9xDIb1N2LI

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      • #33
        Any hoopla about concussions is overblown. They are protecting Josh Rosen. There is nothing to play for, and for a team who's coach who was already fired. They do not want to replicate last years injury ending season. This kid can flat out play and is the leader of this team. He is an outstanding teammate contrary to what bogus info was out there. He disagreed with Trent Dilfer in a high school camp and the kid got a bad reputation because of it. The next year he actually made up with Trent Dilfer so I have no idea why he still has a so called mark. He is extremely intelligent and has a tremendous desire to win out there. The kid is going to be a tremendous franchise QB. Imagine the trifecta Rosen, OBJ, and Engram as the future of the NYG.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post



          93 yards lol. Thatís with Graham, Lockett and Baldwin.

          The point is, receivers have to get open, true a mobile an can extend the play but if no one is getting open then where are you going to throw the ball to?

          a bad online will affect a non mobile qb than a mobile qb.

          I think Eli can get the job done if he has a decent oline and protection. We havenít seen a decent oline since 2008.
          Why are you just focusing on one game with RW? He was in MVP talk before this ONE game. They have a beat up defense, no O-LINE and no running game and still he's thrown for 33tds and 11ints.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by gumby74 View Post

            Here's the problem. Fixing OLs is hard and takes time - especially for a guy like Eli who can't move. In this day and age with average OLmen being so hard to find, I'd dare to say it's close to impossible without taking away big parts from the rest of your team.
            And finding a mobile franchise QB is easy?

            You actually need both a reasonably good OL and good QB to win rings.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Cruzan 26 View Post

              Why are you just focusing on one game with RW? He was in MVP talk before this ONE game. They have a beat up defense, no O-LINE and no running game and still he's thrown for 33tds and 11ints.
              Eli did that in 2015 too. Their defense is so beat up that they just abused the cowboys.

              Yeah sherman isnít playing but they still have Thomas Wagner and a dline that actually pressures the qb.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by miked1958 View Post

                So an Arron Rodgers type who looks to make throws at all costs in the pocket if he can but can also roll out and make a tough throw on the run even back across his body. But the big thing is if neither are there instead of making calls bad throw he can kill u with his feet and move the sticks
                Aaron Rogers has broken his collar bone twice if Iím not mistaken. A mobile qb does you no good when they are watching from the sidelines.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post

                  Eli did that in 2015 too. Their defense is so beat up that they just abused the cowboys.

                  Yeah sherman isnít playing but they still have Thomas Wagner and a dline that actually pressures the qb.
                  Eli did what too? Eli was never in the MVP talks and unlike Eli, RW do not have a top 3 wr on his team. RW is responsible for 33 of Seattle 34tds. You put Eli on Seattle team right now and their fighting for a top 5 pick. The defense is missing 2 of the legion of doom. No one has done more with less than RW and has his team with a legitimate chance of going to the playoffs.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Parademon1 View Post
                    Seattle OL isn't great either and yet RW has accounted for like almost all of Seattle's points this yr. Can Eli say the same?
                    yes please, I'll take 1 Sam Darnold and perfect fresh new start

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by gumby74 View Post

                      There's a difference between being a pocket passer and having mobility vs being Drew Bledsoe - who Eli essentially is right now and has been.
                      It's a shame that it came out of the blue as a total surprise to the Giants GM.

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                      • #41
                        The best are just mobile enough... not runners, but able to shuffle around the pocket and then step outside and be quick enough to extend the play by just 2 seconds. That makes all the difference...
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cruzan 26 View Post

                          Why are you just focusing on one game with RW? He was in MVP talk before this ONE game. They have a beat up defense, no O-LINE and no running game and still he's thrown for 33tds and 11ints.
                          The great ones don't need excuses made for them. I read that somewhere.

                          Moreover, if Wilson - who imo is a great QB - was in any MVP talks this year, those talks must have been held by morons or sports talking heads. And yes, I'm aware that is redundant.

                          Like the SB MVP, the field is tilted way over in favor of QBs but Todd Gurley is the MVP this year and no one else is close. Brown is the distant #2. The QBs are the standard default choices for winning teams, just like SB MVPs.

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                          • #43
                            Yes this is why I like Darnold. He can move around and extend plays and he can throw just as well on the run, but he is not a guy who looks to scramble. Rosen is a better pure passer from the pocket but isn't quite as mobile , but he also does a nice job moving around in the pocket although I worry about his durability compared to Darnold.

                            If anyone is not sold on Darnold, I suggest watching his game vs Colorado this year and the Rose Bowl last year. Ball placement, movement skills, velocity/arm strength, anticipation- he shows all of his traits and what he could be in these 2 games.

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                            • #44
                              Let's call the cowboys and ask for Dak. He's a mobile qb right? Side note, cowboys oline is dominant enough that combined with zeke will be middle of the pack for the next 6-8 years more. Won't stink enough to get high end talent and won't be good enough to make the playoffs or make another run.

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                              • #45
                                Lamar Jackson! he would be my pick!
                                 

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