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  • #46
    Originally posted by B&RWarrior View Post
    I agree, with the exception of SS and AB, they were pretty much role players, but I think finding above average role players is what great GMs do. I think it's one their most difficult tasks.
    That's a key distinction that's rarely made. Great GMs are deft at picking up the multiple role players over one or two particular stars. The Patriots have made a dynasty drafting from that perspective. The GMs that swing for the fences with every pick (high risk, high reward types) tend to have teams that flame out quickly (the Bengals up until they rebuilt the team with Andy Dalton, the Lions under Matt Millen, the Raiders, etc ...).

    Unfortunately they don't get the recognition they deserve most times. Scott Pioli will probably be known for just being another dead branch in the Belichick tree, rather than being known for having the most players make the Pro Bowl from a team that didn't make the playoffs (2012 Chiefs).
    I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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    • #47
      All of the LB's he refused to draft?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by nhpgiantsfan View Post
        Why, because they all contributed nicely in the SB season. Still there were no stars in that draft. Bradshaw was the biggest gem at the 7th round. SS12 was good, but we all know what happened there. But half of them are out of football, and the 1st round, 20th overall pick, most would say is a bust. I happen to like Aaron Ross, and he played nicely for us in 2 SB years, but if you look around these boards there is very little love for him.

        In 2009 he got Nicks in the 1st, and then in the third he got what appears to be a real good franchise LT, when most teams use a 1st round pick to find there LT.
        I think that's pretty unfair to say about the 2007 class

        Ross contributed to two superbowls and while he may not of been Revis, he certainly was a very productive pick and I for one am glad hes back in blue.

        Smith was a GREAT pick for us, but then he got injured. It isn't like he fizzled out.

        Alford same thing, had a career ending injury but progressively got better each year. They had big hopes for him the year he went down.

        Deossie is a two time pro bowler special teamer

        Boss got his career ended due to injury

        Michael Johnson ended up being garbage, but played good his rookie year to help us win a superbowl and was a 7th round pick

        And ahmad Bradshaw wasn't just a gem, but in my eyes one of the greatest players to ever put on a Giants jersey. Between toughness and production, AB will always be in my fanatic heart
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Giantslb66 View Post
          All of the LB's he refused to draft?
          like who
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          • #50
            Originally posted by MattMeyerBud View Post
            I think that's pretty unfair to say about the 2007 class

            Ross contributed to two superbowls and while he may not of been Revis, he certainly was a very productive pick and I for one am glad hes back in blue.

            Smith was a GREAT pick for us, but then he got injured. It isn't like he fizzled out.

            Alford same thing, had a career ending injury but progressively got better each year. They had big hopes for him the year he went down.

            Deossie is a two time pro bowler special teamer

            Boss got his career ended due to injury

            Michael Johnson ended up being garbage, but played good his rookie year to help us win a superbowl and was a 7th round pick

            And ahmad Bradshaw wasn't just a gem, but in my eyes one of the greatest players to ever put on a Giants jersey. Between toughness and production, AB will always be in my fanatic heart
            I don't think that he's saying that the 2007 draft was bad . . . just that it didn't turn out to be as good as it looked like it was going to be after that first year . . . .

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Giantslb66 View Post
              All of the LB's he refused to draft?
              Honestly I'm more worried when he does draft a lb early, since they never pan out...

              I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite team in the NFL.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Giantslb66 View Post
                All of the LB's he refused to draft?
                yeah...that and the 2 SB wins in 5 seasons. Reese sucks.
                "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Giantslb66 View Post
                  All of the LB's he refused to draft?
                  I am way too lazy to look it up but from what I see there really arent that many top LBs in the league and among those which ones did Reese have the opportunity to draft?????
                  "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                  You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                  • #54
                    signing cruz as a udfa hands down.. jpp very close 2nd
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MattMeyerBud View Post
                      like who
                      Pretty much any of them (at least the ones of note).
                      I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by TCHOF View Post
                        I don't think that he's saying that the 2007 draft was bad . . . just that it didn't turn out to be as good as it looked like it was going to be after that first year . . . .
                        And keep in mind that I'm not saying that it was Reese's best draft. Just what he'll end up being known for.
                        I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                          I am way too lazy to look it up but from what I see there really arent that many top LBs in the league and among those which ones did Reese have the opportunity to draft?????
                          The one that really sticks out in my mind was Sean Lee in 2010 but you can't give him too much crap for drafting Joseph in that spot. I still contend our defense would have been better overall with Sean Lee though.

                          <--- still nerd raging about that.
                          I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Kruunch View Post
                            The one that really sticks out in my mind was Sean Lee in 2010 but you can't give him too much crap for drafting Joseph in that spot. I still contend our defense would have been better overall with Sean Lee though.

                            <--- still nerd raging about that.
                            Ehhhh that's debatable. Joseph has really been a monster for us
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                            • #59
                              And in fact alot of the LBs people were pissed about (even a few I was mad at) haven't really panned out like Demeco Ryan's, Rey mualuga, and don't forget how bad we wanted to trade up fr rolando mcclain
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by MattMeyerBud View Post
                                And in fact alot of the LBs people were pissed about (even a few I was mad at) haven't really panned out like Demeco Ryan's, Rey mualuga, and don't forget how bad we wanted to trade up fr rolando mcclain
                                Who's "we"?

                                And I'd argue that Demeco Ryans, or Rey Mualaga would have been a huge upgrade over what we've been sporting the last few years at MLB.

                                But if we never draft another impact LBer ever and keep winning SBs, I guess I'd live with that.
                                I don't always root for the Cowboys but when I do I wear my pink Jessica Simpson edition Romo jersey. (yes I lost a bet)

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