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  • Harooni
    started a topic This position is key to winning a SB for Giants.

    This position is key to winning a SB for Giants.

    I think a power back is the most important key. think about it Jacobs was a battering ram. look at the eagles with blount. You wear the D down with a power back. then the pass opens up and you just need a decent QB, does not have to be a "franchise" or "great QB" .
    Last edited by Harooni; 02-06-2018, 03:29 PM.

  • Diamondring
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    Te who can block at the edges is what we need so we can run to the outside. Yes some O-linemen we can run behind with a lot of punishing backs and other types of backs. Mix other types of runs with power run plays wich are actually basic run plays using power blocks wich all teams use.

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  • TEM
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    Originally posted by tdawg1413 View Post

    In your opinion. I think the Giants should take a QB at 2, but if they took Barkley, I will not be upset. He is going to be a top level RB in the league and is most likely the guy that will help us the most right away.
    And that is your Opinion. I think there are better pure rushers in the draft. That is what the Giants need.

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  • tdawg1413
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    Originally posted by TEM View Post

    Not with a top 5 pick because the speculation could be wrong. The GM has to use the factual information about the back. Like I said lower 1st all for it. His rushing stats are a huge ginormous Red flag for a #2 pick.
    In your opinion. I think the Giants should take a QB at 2, but if they took Barkley, I will not be upset. He is going to be a top level RB in the league and is most likely the guy that will help us the most right away.

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  • TEM
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    Originally posted by tdawg1413 View Post

    A GM speculates on all factors. They all already know how good Barkley is. That's why he will go in the top 10. Look at the YPC for this guy. He turned out pretty well...no? And he would have gone in the top 15 if it had not been for weight and off-the field issues:

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...on-bell-1.html
    Not with a top 5 pick because the speculation could be wrong. The GM has to use the factual information about the back. Like I said lower 1st all for it. His rushing stats are a huge ginormous Red flag for a #2 pick.

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  • jay051
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    Originally posted by fifthavephil View Post

    You did not put a time frame on your question.
    I figured I didnt need to but no worries.

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  • JesseJames
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    I was hoping we would bring in Blount when he was on the market, not that we would have won more games but maybe the games we lost wouldn't have looked so pathetic...

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  • tdawg1413
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    Heres another guy that turned out okay. YPC is pretty similar

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...mlinson-1.html

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  • tdawg1413
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    Originally posted by TEM View Post

    He is listed as RB. He had less Rushing yards by a lot then any other Rb taken in the top 10 picks previously. A running backs 1st job is to run the ball . A GM does not speculate on how his O-line preformed contributed to has rushing numbers. It is more on how the RB did after he was handed the ball. If the GM uses the O-line excuse to take a high pick , he is an idiot. His average per-carry is well below RBs taken in the top 10 picks. RB are not taken in the top 10 because they can catch the ball. They are taken because they can run the ball when it is handed to them and they have the numbers to prove it,


    So is he a RB or is he pass catcher? Because his Rushing stats suck for a top 5 pick. Lower 1rd to 3rd I am all for it. We already have a good slot receiver. We can get a good screen pass catcher in the later rounds.
    A GM speculates on all factors. They all already know how good Barkley is. That's why he will go in the top 10. Look at the YPC for this guy. He turned out pretty well...no? And he would have gone in the top 15 if it had not been for weight and off-the field issues:

    https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb...on-bell-1.html

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  • fifthavephil
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    Originally posted by jay051 View Post

    And how long ago was that?? How many of those qbs have won over the last 3 decades??
    You did not put a time frame on your question.

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  • TEM
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    Originally posted by tdawg1413 View Post

    His stats suck???? He had over 2,000 combined yards and 22 total TDs. Watch the film and not the stat sheet! His OL was not good and teams stacked the box and tried to make McSorley beat them in the pass game. And he still averaged close to 6ypc. Not to mention he is on Le'Veon Bells level in terms of a receiving threat out of the backfield. He lines up in the slot, outside and still wins his routes.
    He is listed as RB. He had less Rushing yards by a lot then any other Rb taken in the top 10 picks previously. A running backs 1st job is to run the ball . A GM does not speculate on how his O-line preformed contributed to has rushing numbers. It is more on how the RB did after he was handed the ball. If the GM uses the O-line excuse to take a high pick , he is an idiot. His average per-carry is well below RBs taken in the top 10 picks. RB are not taken in the top 10 because they can catch the ball. They are taken because they can run the ball when it is handed to them and they have the numbers to prove it,


    So is he a RB or is he pass catcher? Because his Rushing stats suck for a top 5 pick. Lower 1rd to 3rd I am all for it. We already have a good slot receiver. We can get a good screen pass catcher in the later rounds.

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  • E-Z-E
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    I felt Bradshaw was a bit more impactful than jacobs.

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  • tdawg1413
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    Originally posted by TEM View Post

    How isn't he . His stats suck. That is all a RB has is rushing numbers.
    His stats suck???? He had over 2,000 combined yards and 22 total TDs. Watch the film and not the stat sheet! His OL was not good and teams stacked the box and tried to make McSorley beat them in the pass game. And he still averaged close to 6ypc. Not to mention he is on Le'Veon Bells level in terms of a receiving threat out of the backfield. He lines up in the slot, outside and still wins his routes.

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  • jomo
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    Originally posted by DandyDon View Post

    +1. He was too tall and ran too upright at times, needed to get a head of steam before he could truck people. He got stopped at or behind the LOS way too often for a big guy.
    I agree, he was not a very good "short yardage" back. I liked him but not in those situations.

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  • jay051
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    Originally posted by fifthavephil View Post

    Phil Simms backup. Jeff Hostetler won a Super Bowl !
    And how long ago was that?? How many of those qbs have won over the last 3 decades??

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