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    The cuts are days away. What are your thoughts on freeing up cap space?

    Where the space is.
    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/cap/


    Janoris Jenkins
    2018 Salary $13,000,000
    Dead cap $6,000,000
    If cut savings $7,000,000

    DRC
    2018 Salary $8,500,000
    Dead cap $2,000,000
    If cut saving $6,500,000

    Brandon Marshall
    2018 Salary $6,156 250
    Dead cap $1,000,000
    If cut Savings $5,156,250

    Olivier Vernon
    2018 Salary $17,000,000
    Dead cap $12,000,000
    Savings if cut $5,000,000

    John Jerry
    2018 Salary $4,125,000
    Dead cap $1,600,000
    Savings if cut $2,525,000

    Dwayne Harris
    2018 Salary $4,050,000
    Dead cap $1,600,000
    Savings if cut $2,450 000

    Brad Wing
    2018 Salary $2,025,000
    Dead cap $1,000,000
    Savings if cut $1,025,000


    Not added to the list

    Eli has already been designated as the starting QB. Not getting cut.

    Ereck Flowers is a 100% dollar for dollar cap hit. Not getting cut.

    Eli Apple is a risk to cut . The Giants could claim his contract was voided at the time of his suspension. Would it pass through arbitration? I don't think so . He did nothing that bad as to void the contract.
    Would be $8,953,644 cap hit. Not getting cut.

    There are others that can free up space. The too ludicrous to cut list

    Damon Harrison
    Landon Collins
    Sterling Shepard




    Janoris Jenkins Adds 7 million in cap space
    DRC Adds 6.5 million in cap space
    Brandon Marshall Adds 5.2 million in cap space
    Olivier Vernon Adds 5 million in cap space
    John Jerry Adds 2.5 million in cap space
    Dwayne Harris Adds 2.5 in cap space
    Brad Wing adds 1 million in cap space

    If all were cut, adds additional 30 million in cap space.


    Cut them or Keep them (copy and past and add comment)
    Janoris Jenkins
    DRC
    Olivier Vernon
    Brandon Marshall
    John Jerry
    Dwayne Harris
    Brad Wing

    For me

    Janoris Jenkins KEEP our Best Corner
    DRC KEEP to versatile to cut
    Olivier Vernon KEEP too expensive to cut. Giving up 12 million.
    Brandon Marshall CUT
    John Jerry KEEP Can't get as good for his price
    Dwayne Harris CUT
    Brad Wing CUT can get a comparable punter for less.

    I freed up a whopping 8.7 million = A starting O-linemen.
    There's two times of year for me: Football season, and waiting for football season.

  • #2
    Marshsll, Jerry and Harris definitely CUT.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TEM View Post
      The cuts are days away. What are your thoughts on freeing up cap space?

      Where the space is.
      http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/cap/


      Janoris Jenkins
      2018 Salary $13,000,000
      Dead cap $6,000,000
      If cut savings $7,000,000

      DRC
      2018 Salary $8,500,000
      Dead cap $2,000,000
      If cut saving $6,500,000

      Brandon Marshall
      2018 Salary $6,156 250
      Dead cap $1,000,000
      If cut Savings $5,156,250

      Olivier Vernon
      2018 Salary $17,000,000
      Dead cap $12,000,000
      Savings if cut $5,000,000

      John Jerry
      2018 Salary $4,125,000
      Dead cap $1,600,000
      Savings if cut $2,525,000

      Dwayne Harris
      2018 Salary $4,050,000
      Dead cap $1,600,000
      Savings if cut $2,450 000

      Brad Wing
      2018 Salary $2,025,000
      Dead cap $1,000,000
      Savings if cut $1,025,000


      Not added to the list

      Eli has already been designated as the starting QB. Not getting cut.

      Ereck Flowers is a 100% dollar for dollar cap hit. Not getting cut.

      Eli Apple is a risk to cut . The Giants could claim his contract was voided at the time of his suspension. Would it pass through arbitration? I don't think so . He did nothing that bad as to void the contract.
      Would be $8,953,644 cap hit. Not getting cut.

      There are others that can free up space. The too ludicrous to cut list

      Damon Harrison
      Landon Collins
      Sterling Shepard




      Janoris Jenkins Adds 7 million in cap space
      DRC Adds 6.5 million in cap space
      Brandon Marshall Adds 5.2 million in cap space
      Olivier Vernon Adds 5 million in cap space
      John Jerry Adds 2.5 million in cap space
      Dwayne Harris Adds 2.5 in cap space
      Brad Wing adds 1 million in cap space

      If all were cut, adds additional 30 million in cap space.


      Cut them or Keep them (copy and past and add comment)
      Janoris Jenkins
      DRC
      Olivier Vernon
      Brandon Marshall
      John Jerry
      Dwayne Harris
      Brad Wing

      For me

      Janoris Jenkins KEEP our Best Corner
      DRC KEEP to versatile to cut
      Olivier Vernon KEEP too expensive to cut. Giving up 12 million.
      Brandon Marshall CUT
      John Jerry KEEP Can't get as good for his price
      Dwayne Harris CUT
      Brad Wing CUT can get a comparable punter for less.

      I freed up a whopping 8.7 million = A starting O-linemen.
      Agreed.

      As much as I would like some of the other guys to get cut, it wouldn't make sense for the Giants.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by fifthavephil View Post
        Marshsll, Jerry and Harris definitely CUT.
        I don't think you can ( even as a depth player ) get a Guard with as much starting experience as JJ for his price . He is cheap for what you get . The giants will not get for is cap hit + 2.5 a guard with the same experience and lack of injury history. I am not a big fan of JJ but it simple economics to keep him.
        There's two times of year for me: Football season, and waiting for football season.

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        • #5
          DRC is intriguing. Cutting him frees up a ton of $$$ for a small cap hit. But heís too versatile and can still play an vital role on the defense next year. So he probably will stay another year.

          BM look like a shoe in cut but whoís going to take his role? Can SS be the guy? I think itís time the Giants give him a chance as an outside guy. He had some monster games this year while healthy as really the only receiving threat outside of Engram. Heís an excellent route runner with much better hands than BM. BM just wasnít cutting it and I donít think the Giants can take a chance with him another year unless he takes a massive discount.

          Wing can be replaced. Schurmur might feel he can squeeze Harris into the offense the way TC did. Harris was a decent WR with some good hands when he was utilized under TC. Under Mac he looked like a complete bust. But so did guys like Ellison and Adams. Mac made a lot of his weapons look like trash. I think you gotta keep Harris for a year especially if they cut BM and do not resign him.

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          • #6
            Nice job by OP.

            I would cut Marshall, Jerry, Harris and Wing and void Apple for insubordination. That is enough money for two real good Olinemen.

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            • #7
              Man I canít wait until Flowers contract is up and it frees up so much cap space to go out and get an NFL player or two.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Roswell View Post
                Nice job by OP.

                I would cut Marshall, Jerry, Harris and Wing and void Apple for insubordination. That is enough money for two real good Olinemen.
                As the OP said, Apple if cut would go straight to he union and likely win his case costing the Giants a massive cap hit. The best thing to do with Apple is keep him and try to salvage. If he is still a twit you bury him on the depth chart and wait until you have an iron clad case to get rid of

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                • #9
                  I would love to say Cut them all, but we need corners...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by barran21 View Post
                    I would love to say Cut them all, but we need corners...
                    I get your point . That is a lot of salary for some of those players on a 3-13 team.
                    There's two times of year for me: Football season, and waiting for football season.

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                    • #11
                      Harris is a good player and one of my favorites. Keep him.

                      Cut Wing.
                      Fan since 1970.
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                      • #12
                        I've liked DRC but this is the year where his age starts to show. He will start getting burned by the young quick slot guys. Make the heinsight call or face a down season for proof.

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                        • #13
                          Honestly, on that list? Marshall.

                          All the rest of them don't have similarly priced replacements available. Strictly FA speaking, you can't replace Jerry and Harris for $2.5M (amount of cap space available when they're cut).

                          What would be sweet is if we drafted replacements now so when those contracts expire we have more talented replacements at less of a cap hit.

                          you know, like how successful NFL franchises are run these days......like that.
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                          • #14
                            I donít think drc should be cut, but I believe he will be. If we are going 3-4 we are going to need to spend on more than just O-line. Thanks to JR our LB cupboard is empty. That is a problem. I see Marshall, Harris, DRC and Wing going. Any time Wing has been asked to do his job with even remote situational pressure he blows it.
                            sigpic Verbally I'm untouchable like Eliot Ness.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by barran21 View Post
                              I would love to say Cut them all, but we need corners...
                              Examining the non-headliner cornerback prospects who have the ability to be reliable players in the NFL

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