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  • #76
    Originally posted by Harooni View Post

    yeah so good we had the worst D in the nfl. anyway keep jenkins, but cut DRC his cap number is 8.5mill and he is 1 more year older and has imo lost a step already.
    So they were responsible with how the other 9 guys on the field played? Good one Harooni.

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    • #77
      Wing gets a camp invite

      cut Harris today

      cut Marshmellow tomorrow (Marshall)
      Long Live the King

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      • #78
        Cutting both our starting corners would be extremely stupid. When healthy, DRC and Jenkins are as good as it gets. Though not on this list, Ross C0ckrell is a must resign. He was a steal from the Steelers. After wide receiver, the CB's on this team is the next talented group. I would look to trim the fat from somewhere else. Trade JPP or Vernon if possible. Neither of them is worth the money they are making.
        Last edited by I Bleed Blue; 02-12-2018, 09:07 AM.

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        • #79

          Brandon Marshall
          John Jerry
          Dwayne Harris
          Brad Wing CUT, DRAWN AND QUARTERED !!!!!!!!!!!

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          • #80
            The only players that I see getting cut are Marshall, Jerry, Harris, Wing and possibly DRC.

            Flowers and Apple should be cut, but they won't be. Hopefully, one or both will possibly be traded.

            One of these teams is not like the others

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            • #81
              What are the ramifications with JPP? I don't know his contract, and I doubt anyone would want him even if he could be traded.....
              "Sir, I was wondering: did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?"
              "No...I didn't."
              "Oh it was most exhilarating: the Giants of NY took on the Packers of Green Bay and in the end the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H. It was a most ripping victory."

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              • #82
                you can't cut good quality players just to improve cap space because you will only have to pay somebody else to replace them unless the replacement player is significantly better...

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
                  you can't cut good quality players just to improve cap space because you will only have to pay somebody else to replace them unless the replacement player is significantly better...
                  Which good quality players?
                  "Sir, I was wondering: did you happen to catch the professional football contest on television last night?"
                  "No...I didn't."
                  "Oh it was most exhilarating: the Giants of NY took on the Packers of Green Bay and in the end the Giants triumphed by kicking an oblong ball made of pigskin through a big H. It was a most ripping victory."

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
                    you can't cut good quality players just to improve cap space because you will only have to pay somebody else to replace them unless the replacement player is significantly better...
                    ...or cheaper.

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                    • #85
                      Janoris Jenkins- Keep
                      DRC- Keep but reduce role
                      Olivier Vernon- keep
                      Brandon Marshall- Cut
                      John Jerry- cut
                      Dwayne Harris- cut
                      Brad Wing- cut

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                      • #86
                        Marshall
                        Harris
                        Wing

                        keep the rest
                        "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                        You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by TEM View Post
                          The cuts are days away. What are your thoughts on freeing up cap space?

                          Where the space is.
                          http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-giants/cap/


                          Janoris Jenkins
                          2018 Salary $13,000,000
                          Dead cap $6,000,000
                          If cut savings $7,000,000

                          DRC
                          2018 Salary $8,500,000
                          Dead cap $2,000,000
                          If cut saving $6,500,000

                          Brandon Marshall
                          2018 Salary $6,156 250
                          Dead cap $1,000,000
                          If cut Savings $5,156,250

                          Olivier Vernon
                          2018 Salary $17,000,000
                          Dead cap $12,000,000
                          Savings if cut $5,000,000

                          John Jerry
                          2018 Salary $4,125,000
                          Dead cap $1,600,000
                          Savings if cut $2,525,000

                          Dwayne Harris
                          2018 Salary $4,050,000
                          Dead cap $1,600,000
                          Savings if cut $2,450 000

                          Brad Wing
                          2018 Salary $2,025,000
                          Dead cap $1,000,000
                          Savings if cut $1,025,000


                          Not added to the list

                          Eli has already been designated as the starting QB. Not getting cut.

                          Ereck Flowers is a 100% dollar for dollar cap hit. Not getting cut.

                          Eli Apple is a risk to cut . The Giants could claim his contract was voided at the time of his suspension. Would it pass through arbitration? I don't think so . He did nothing that bad as to void the contract.
                          Would be $8,953,644 cap hit. Not getting cut.

                          There are others that can free up space. The too ludicrous to cut list

                          Damon Harrison
                          Landon Collins
                          Sterling Shepard




                          Janoris Jenkins Adds 7 million in cap space
                          DRC Adds 6.5 million in cap space
                          Brandon Marshall Adds 5.2 million in cap space
                          Olivier Vernon Adds 5 million in cap space
                          John Jerry Adds 2.5 million in cap space
                          Dwayne Harris Adds 2.5 in cap space
                          Brad Wing adds 1 million in cap space

                          If all were cut, adds additional 30 million in cap space.


                          Cut them or Keep them (copy and past and add comment)
                          Janoris Jenkins
                          DRC
                          Olivier Vernon
                          Brandon Marshall
                          John Jerry
                          Dwayne Harris
                          Brad Wing

                          For me

                          Janoris Jenkins KEEP our Best Corner
                          DRC KEEP to versatile to cut
                          Olivier Vernon KEEP too expensive to cut. Giving up 12 million.
                          Brandon Marshall CUT
                          John Jerry KEEP Can't get as good for his price
                          Dwayne Harris CUT
                          Brad Wing CUT can get a comparable punter for less.

                          I freed up a whopping 8.7 million = A starting O-linemen.
                          I am sure many of these, if not most, will be re-structured accordingly with new Boss.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by I Bleed Blue View Post
                            Cutting both our starting corners would be extremely stupid. When healthy, DRC and Jenkins are as good as it gets. Though not on this list, Ross C0ckrell is a must resign. He was a steal from the Steelers. After wide receiver, the CB's on this team is the next talented group. I would look to trim the fat from somewhere else. Trade JPP or Vernon if possible. Neither of them is worth the money they are making.
                            C0ckrell is a FA the reason he not on the list.
                            There's two times of year for me: Football season, and waiting for football season.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by BigBlueBoricua View Post

                              I am sure many of these, if not most, will be re-structured accordingly with new Boss.
                              I not confident all would agree with it.
                              Jenkins is getting mid level pay for a #1 corner. He would get paid the same or more on another team.
                              DRC has stated he would be ok with it.
                              Vernon I don't think he will budge. He is in his money years .
                              JPP no way too much guaranteed left . He is not giving it back.
                              The rest are nominal on what a restructure would free up.
                              There's two times of year for me: Football season, and waiting for football season.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by JoeBigBlue View Post
                                What are the ramifications with JPP? I don't know his contract, and I doubt anyone would want him even if he could be traded.....
                                If he is cut his cap hit would be more then the current cap space the Giants have.
                                There's two times of year for me: Football season, and waiting for football season.

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