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  • Originally posted by GameTime View Post
    another meaning of reading between the lines is wild *** guess......
    For sure, he thinks he's underpaid. He could not be clearer on that front. If you think you are underpaid, why not think you can break the salary ceiling too? He's a number 2 receiver who wanted to get paid like at the top of the number 1 receiver.

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    • I like Cruz, but he has to learn to keep his mouth shut. Has anyone else noticed how he always steers the conversation to himself?

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      • Diamondring is gwat btw

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        • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
          I just cant understand being "disappointed" after going from UDFA to multi millionaire.

          But maybe thats just me.
          Its human nature after I'm sure being told by his agent that he would be getting a lot more.
          Trying to relate to these pro athletes is a waste of time. He's signed and he's a Giant for a while. Lets just be happy it was a team friendly deal and move on to whining about JPP's or Nicks' coming negotiations.
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
            I like Cruz, but he has to learn to keep his mouth shut. Has anyone else noticed how he always steers the conversation to himself?

            Did you even watch the interview on nfl am?
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            • Originally posted by NYGabriel View Post
              Did you even watch the interview on nfl am?
              So I guess you hadn't noticed. Thanks!

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              • Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
                So I guess you hadn't noticed. Thanks!
                Was he just gathering a crowd and extemporaneously speaking or was he being interviewed?

                His comment about Nicks being # 1 was most certainly about Cruz, on that we can all agree.
                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                  Was he just gathering a crowd and extemporaneously speaking or was he being interviewed?

                  His comment about Nicks being # 1 was most certainly about Cruz, on that we can all agree.
                  I wasn't specifically speaking about this interview. I''ll have to dig his quotes and provide links so that we get the context behind them.

                  I also feel that he is right for feeling underpaid though...
                  He basically was paid pocket change compared to other top receivers while playing like a top 10. So if you factor those 2 years and add them to his total contract it lowers the average per year.

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                  • Originally posted by DarkSaint View Post
                    I wasn't specifically speaking about this interview. I''ll have to dig his quotes and provide links so that we get the context behind them.

                    I also feel that he is right for feeling underpaid though...
                    He basically was paid pocket change compared to other top receivers while playing like a top 10. So if you factor those 2 years and add them to his total contract it lowers the average per year.

                    How do we keep missing the interviews where he repeatedly said he's happy? Are you also in the "he's lying" camp?
                    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                    • Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                      you still make zero sense...is that you Jakk????
                      Yes I do make sense. With another big threat out there takes attention away from all receivers. When the offense has one big threat, the defense can focus on that player. They did that to Cruz when Nicks was not 100 percent last year. Cruz's production slipped with no other big threat wich Nicks wasn't at the time.

                      I made posts about how much Cruz should get a year based on the scheme, the other players on the field etc. Five to six mil a year is good money for a slot receiver without another big receiving threat. With another big threat in a heathy Nicks in 011. Cruz had more room to make moves and get extra yards. Without that other big threat, Cruz was unable to get those extra yards cause he had little room to move about, cause the defense could put more men in zone voverage. I believe that without another big threat, Cruz average per year would be below a thousand about 900 to 1,000 yards with a pocket qb who hardly runs for extra yards when giving the chance. A qb who is able to guy extra time can also help the receivers out is when a qb is able to buy extra time in all situations when he is in trouble or the receivers need more time to get open.
                      Last edited by Diamondring; 07-29-2013, 07:14 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                        There goes Cruz whining about being underpaid again
                        there goes slipknottin whining about cruz again

                        seriously give it a rest

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                        • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                          How do we keep missing the interviews where he repeatedly said he's happy? Are you also in the "he's lying" camp?

                          Honestly, I am not really part of any camp. I got the feeling that originally, he inadvertently showed his true feelings and then in the "cruz changes his mind" article he says as much".
                          “I don’t look at anyone else in terms of what they got and what everyone else got, it was just a general feeling, an honest feeling at the time and it got kind of depicted the wrong way. But I’m excited man, I’m here.”

                          He also says here, that he is excited, I have no doubt that he is happy and is excited, but there is a part of him that still feels that he should have gotten more and he had trouble expressing himself/his feelings. Another reason why he should keep his mouth zipped. :-)




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                          • Originally posted by slipknottin View Post
                            No. It's what he said.


                            "I do think we've been undervalued; I think it definitely signifies a change in the game," Cruz said. " … I think the numbers are the numbers and they have to be scaled according to the tops in the league no matter where you line up on the field."
                            Cruz is starting to piss me off. The guy should move passed it now its over. He didnt have to sign with the Giants.
                            Last edited by Redeyejedi; 07-29-2013, 07:38 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Redeyejedi View Post
                              Cruz is starting to piss me off
                              Huh? For what reason? If people watch the interview and are upset by it I really can't fathom why.
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                              • Originally posted by NYGabriel View Post
                                Huh? For what reason? If people watch the interview and are upset by it I really can't fathom why.
                                seriously, some people need to get a life and stop putting so much stock into what a player says. boo freaking hoo.

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