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  • #31
    Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
    Which is why it baffles me when you make statements like:



    The most compelling logical conclusion I can reach from this is that you prefer "real (as in not playing at all) lost seasons" to "essentially lost seasons."

    But hey, I don't blame you. If I can't drive 100 mph in my neighborhood, I don't want to drive at all.
    I'm not even going to try to understand this point. (if indeed you have one here)
    What I am going to say is that he clearly had leg problems as a compensation for the foot injury.
    (OK I admit I play a doctor on the Giants MB)
    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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    • #32
      I disagree -- Nicks Groin Muscle pull is a result of him not being in shape. Now he has to REST to heal up, So when does Nicks get into shape if he cant work?? This is a double edged sword and there is no real answer to it.

      If he cant stay healthy Then say goodbye, he is NO GOOD TO THIS TEAM SITTING ON THE BENCH.

      Peace
      Dan

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      • #33
        Originally posted by danme View Post
        I disagree -- Nicks Groin Muscle pull is a result of him not being in shape. Now he has to REST to heal up, So when does Nicks get into shape if he cant work?? This is a double edged sword and there is no real answer to it.

        If he cant stay healthy Then say goodbye, he is NO GOOD TO THIS TEAM SITTING ON THE BENCH.

        Peace
        Dan
        And you know this how..............
        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
          I'm not even going to try to understand this point. (if indeed you have one here)
          What I am going to say is that he clearly had leg problems as a compensation for the foot injury.
          (OK I admit I play a doctor on the Giants MB)
          My point is that you wanted Coughlin to hold out Nicks in the name of not having an "essentially lost season."

          But by holding him out, it doesn't dawn on you that instead of having an "essentially lost season," he has an "actual lost season."
          My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
            And you know this how..............

            Groin Muscle Pulls are a result of Not stretching and working on those particular muscles. Apparently Nicks hasn't been working out or this would not have happened When I was younger and playing organized football, I pulled my groin Muscles at the beginning of each season in the 1st week of practice for 3 straight years. After the 3rd time it happened I said this is the last time. I started working out 4 mos before the first practice and guess what -- I didn't pull my groin muscle/s again for the last 7 years I played.

            Does that answer your question

            Peace
            Dan

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            • #36
              It's a worry if he's mentally limited himself. Being a contract year he could go out of his way trying not to get hurt.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                It's a worry if he's mentally limited himself. Being a contract year he could go out of his way trying not to get hurt.
                With diminished returns if his overly cautious mindset adversely affects his game.
                My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
                  It's a worry if he's mentally limited himself. Being a contract year he could go out of his way trying not to get hurt.
                  the only way he's going to get paid is by producing during the regular and post seasons. Nicks is a smart man. He doesn't want to risk injury so he could be limiting himself right now. Look at what happened to maclin. And given recent giants history, we know our old school dinosaur coaching staff has no issue throwing injured players into the fire. He probably wants to avoid what happened last year.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                    My point is that you wanted Coughlin to hold out Nicks in the name of not having an "essentially lost season."

                    But by holding him out, it doesn't dawn on you that instead of having an "essentially lost season," he has an "actual lost season."
                    No...I wanted him to allow his injury to heal properly. He clearly came back too soon. I wonder how much of that is attributed to the "he needs to get on the field" mentality.

                    When a guy has a broken foot, it needs to heal.
                    Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by danme View Post
                      Groin Muscle Pulls are a result of Not stretching and working on those particular muscles. Apparently Nicks hasn't been working out or this would not have happened When I was younger and playing organized football, I pulled my groin Muscles at the beginning of each season in the 1st week of practice for 3 straight years. After the 3rd time it happened I said this is the last time. I started working out 4 mos before the first practice and guess what -- I didn't pull my groin muscle/s again for the last 7 years I played.

                      Does that answer your question

                      Peace
                      Dan
                      Groin pulls "can be" caused by a failure to stretch and work a muscle.
                      Lots of groin pulls come from overworking a particular muscle, inhibiting flexibility.
                      You act as though you know the root cause and you can't possibly.
                      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                        No...I wanted him to allow his injury to heal properly. He clearly came back too soon. I wonder how much of that is attributed to the "he needs to get on the field" mentality.

                        When a guy has a broken foot, it needs to heal.
                        His injury has since healed properly. This injury is entirely unrelated.
                        My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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                        • #42
                          The fact that the RR was beasting every chance he got yet the coaches kept putting in Nicks was alarming. It looks like the staff hasn't learned their lesson yet and sound like they're already motivated by letting injured guys at football.

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                          • #43
                            This season we'll hear the tale we need to hear before nicks reaches the end of his contract. The HC is saying it the way he sees it. I hope HN comes thru like a champ but if we again see the injury bug bite... Oh well, there is always RR the next man up! Go Giants!

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                            • #44
                              As long as he's healthy by the regular season I'm not going to worry too much. That being said, I'd love to see him get some reps with Eli before it.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by gmen0820 View Post
                                His injury has since healed properly. This injury is entirely unrelated.
                                I'm talking about last year.
                                What are you talking about?
                                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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