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  • #61
    Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
    What the heck are you talking about. he had a n ankle injury week 2.
    He slammed his left knee in week 2. By the end of the season, the right foot broken in Spring, the one you falsely claim "wasn't allowed to heal properly," was fine.
    My body was sculpted to the proportions of Michelangelo's David.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
      How could he? He was already hurt. He wasn't playing for a contract last year, either.
      Huh? Please read the original question.
      No one remembers who came in second.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
        Just because something happened to you doesn't mean its the same for Nicks. He's professional athlete.
        Again...you cannot possibly know the root cause of Nicks' groin pull. You are assuming that he's "out of shape". Plenty of players who are in great shape still suffer from groin pulls.
        Ok lets put it this way MS -- Im not assuming Nicks is out of Shape -- Im 100% Sure Nicks is out of shape --- Also didn't he SKIP OTA's -- Groin Muscle Pulls are a DIRECT RESULT OF NOT BEING IN SHAPE -- You can't overwork a Groin Muscle by Running and making Cuts so your theory is a reach A Huge REACH. Just by missing OTA's is saying I don't want to work out. His football Shape is questionable and will be questionable until he plays a whole Season.

        Broken Bone are a totally different story. Soft tissue injuries without even taking a hit is a IM OUT OF FOOTBALL SHAPE Injury

        Peace
        Dan

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        • #64
          Originally posted by jomo View Post
          Huh? Please read the original question.
          I did. You asked if Nicks took these precautions last season. I said he couldn't as he was already hurt.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Flip Empty View Post
            I did. You asked if Nicks took these precautions last season. I said he couldn't as he was already hurt.
            Go one step back in the string of questions.
            No one remembers who came in second.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by danme View Post
              Ok lets put it this way MS -- Im not assuming Nicks is out of Shape -- Im 100% Sure Nicks is out of shape --- Also didn't he SKIP OTA's -- Groin Muscle Pulls are a DIRECT RESULT OF NOT BEING IN SHAPE -- You can't overwork a Groin Muscle by Running and making Cuts so your theory is a reach A Huge REACH. Just by missing OTA's is saying I don't want to work out. His football Shape is questionable and will be questionable until he plays a whole Season.

              Broken Bone are a totally different story. Soft tissue injuries without even taking a hit is a IM OUT OF FOOTBALL SHAPE Injury

              Peace
              Dan
              That is simply ridiculous. You can have soft tissue injuries and be in tremendous shape. Have you never seen a sprinter grab the back of his leg?

              I'm not continuing this argument because I'm old and tired and your point is way off base.
              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by danme View Post
                Ok lets put it this way MS -- Im not assuming Nicks is out of Shape -- Im 100% Sure Nicks is out of shape --- Also didn't he SKIP OTA's -- Groin Muscle Pulls are a DIRECT RESULT OF NOT BEING IN SHAPE -- You can't overwork a Groin Muscle by Running and making Cuts so your theory is a reach A Huge REACH. Just by missing OTA's is saying I don't want to work out. His football Shape is questionable and will be questionable until he plays a whole Season.

                Broken Bone are a totally different story. Soft tissue injuries without even taking a hit is a IM OUT OF FOOTBALL SHAPE Injury

                Peace
                Dan
                This is just plain wrong. First off all, Nicks was with the team training long before OTA's, just because he didn't participate in OTAs doesn't mean that he is out of shape. Second, you most certainly can over work a groin muscle by making cuts, as a matter of fact a quick change in direction via cutting is the most common way athletes injure their groins. Just because you personally experienced an injury due to being out of shape out doesn't mean that Nicks suffered his injury for the same reasons. You are completely off base here, and you are speculating at best.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                  That is simply ridiculous. You can have soft tissue injuries and be in tremendous shape. Have you never seen a sprinter grab the back of his leg?

                  I'm not continuing this argument because I'm old and tired and your point is way off base.
                  LMFAO --- Your so high on Hakeem Nicks that it has blinded you to reality.

                  I like Nicks as much as the next guy -- I think he is Well above average as far as #1 receivers go, but what good is he to this team if he can't stay healthy?? You mention runners, usually 9.9999999999 times out of 10 it is a Hammy they pull after running all out for god knows how many laps. Nicks was running Routes Not a Marathon.

                  Spin it any way you want, but Groin Muscle pulls are Nagging Injuries, and wont go away, they are a direct result from not being in Shape or better yet not working out and stretching that muscle the proper way.

                  I like you, your posts for the most part are spot on.

                  I don't B.S. I call it the way I see it and I don't talk about things I don't know about. Nicks IMOVHO Is a top 5 receiver in this league. (IF HE STAYS HEALTHY) and this injury is a direct result of Nicks being Laxed in the offseason.


                  Peace
                  Dan

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by danme View Post
                    Ok lets put it this way MS -- Im not assuming Nicks is out of Shape -- Im 100% Sure Nicks is out of shape --- Also didn't he SKIP OTA's -- Groin Muscle Pulls are a DIRECT RESULT OF NOT BEING IN SHAPE -- You can't overwork a Groin Muscle by Running and making Cuts so your theory is a reach A Huge REACH. Just by missing OTA's is saying I don't want to work out. His football Shape is questionable and will be questionable until he plays a whole Season.

                    Broken Bone are a totally different story. Soft tissue injuries without even taking a hit is a IM OUT OF FOOTBALL SHAPE Injury

                    Peace
                    Dan
                    You have no way of knowing what kind of shape he is in. This is just a dumb assumption that you absolutely can't back up with any valid proof at all.

                    Peace
                    #80

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by danme View Post
                      LMFAO --- Your so high on Hakeem Nicks that it has blinded you to reality.

                      I like Nicks as much as the next guy -- I think he is Well above average as far as #1 receivers go, but what good is he to this team if he can't stay healthy?? You mention runners, usually 9.9999999999 times out of 10 it is a Hammy they pull after running all out for god knows how many laps. Nicks was running Routes Not a Marathon.

                      Spin it any way you want, but Groin Muscle pulls are Nagging Injuries, and wont go away, they are a direct result from not being in Shape or better yet not working out and stretching that muscle the proper way.

                      I like you, your posts for the most part are spot on.

                      I don't B.S. I call it the way I see it and I don't talk about things I don't know about. Nicks IMOVHO Is a top 5 receiver in this league. (IF HE STAYS HEALTHY) and this injury is a direct result of Nicks being Laxed in the offseason.


                      Peace
                      Dan
                      I appreciate the compliments. I really do. I'm simply challenging your argument, not you.
                      A player can pull a groin muscle while in top shape. I'm not saying that being out of shape can't also cause a pulled groin, but its not the only possible reason. You are stating as fact something that is really just your opinion.
                      Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by danme View Post
                        LMFAO --- Your so high on Hakeem Nicks that it has blinded you to reality.

                        I like Nicks as much as the next guy -- I think he is Well above average as far as #1 receivers go, but what good is he to this team if he can't stay healthy?? You mention runners, usually 9.9999999999 times out of 10 it is a Hammy they pull after running all out for god knows how many laps. Nicks was running Routes Not a Marathon.

                        Spin it any way you want, but Groin Muscle pulls are Nagging Injuries, and wont go away, they are a direct result from not being in Shape or better yet not working out and stretching that muscle the proper way.

                        I like you, your posts for the most part are spot on.

                        I don't B.S. I call it the way I see it and I don't talk about things I don't know about. Nicks IMOVHO Is a top 5 receiver in this league. (IF HE STAYS HEALTHY) and this injury is a direct result of Nicks being Laxed in the offseason.


                        Peace
                        Dan
                        Everything about this post is plain wrong. You are blinded by your misplaced anger in that Nicks didn't participate in OTAs.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          I appreciate the compliments. I really do. I'm simply challenging your argument, not you.
                          A player can pull a groin muscle while in top shape. I'm not saying that being out of shape can't also cause a pulled groin, but its not the only possible reason. You are stating as fact something that is really just your opinion.
                          Yes it is an opinion, and opinion based on experience and fact (My Own). You see Nicks may be in shape, But, not in "FOOTBALL SHAPE" You cant work a groin muscle by lifting weights or jogging. You have stretch those muscles day in and day out. They are very hard to work out and if he had gone to the Giants Facility and worked with the trainers weekly he would have had exercises specifically to work those particular muscles.

                          There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between being in shape and being in FOOTBALL SHAPE. and this injury is a direct result of Nicks being Laxed in the offseason and Not working out at the Facility.

                          Peace
                          Dan

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by NYG- View Post
                            Everything about this post is plain wrong. You are blinded by your misplaced anger in that Nicks didn't participate in OTAs.
                            OMG And what planet did you come from. Im not pissed at Nicks for missing OTA's at all. Im pissed he's hurt AGAIN and this one is his fault no one else's

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by danme View Post
                              Yes it is an opinion, and opinion based on experience and fact (My Own). You see Nicks may be in shape, But, not in "FOOTBALL SHAPE" You cant work a groin muscle by lifting weights or jogging. You have stretch those muscles day in and day out. They are very hard to work out and if he had gone to the Giants Facility and worked with the trainers weekly he would have had exercises specifically to work those particular muscles.There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between being in shape and being in FOOTBALL SHAPE. and this injury is a direct result of Nicks being Laxed in the offseason and Not working out at the Facility.PeaceDan
                              Your opinions are based off of...what? A guy gets a groin injury and now he's not in football shape? Did you miss the reports of him working out during the off season? You are overreacting just a tad.
                              Mood: WOOF!

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                              • #75
                                They are BASED ON MY OWN PULLED GROIN MUSCLE/S -- Read the thread and you will see

                                Peace
                                Dan

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