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  • Ogletree signing step toward restoring Giants’ proud LB tradition

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/08/ogletr...-lb-tradition/

    Excerpt: "Once upon a time, the New York Football Giants were the professional version of Linebacker U … Harry Carson and Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks and Pepper Johnson … A Big Blue Wrecking Crew to be sure.

    LT was the second pick of the 1981 draft at a time when Carson, Brad Van Pelt and Brian Kelley were already established and heralded as the Crunch Bunch.

    Former GM Jerry Reese understandably prioritized pass rushers and cornerbacks, so much so that the Giants had turned into Linebacker Who? while Eli Manning was running for his life behind an offensive line that was never upgraded.

    B.J. Goodson and Devon Kennard are the only linebackers drafted by Big Blue in the last six years and they were fourth- and fifth-round picks, respectively.

    The last time the Reese Giants drafted a linebacker before the third round was in 2009, when Clint Sintim, who could not stay on the field and went bust, was a second-round selection.

    Reese did trade for pedestrian LB Keith Rivers in 2012 and a year later for middle linebacker Jon Beason, who was terrific for a spell until he quickly broke down." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    With the running back position making a comeback, so is the linebacker position. Glad to see gettlemen knows this. Now we just have to draft Barkley to get our stud rb.
    [SIGPIC]

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bigbluejeep8888 View Post
      With the running back position making a comeback, so is the linebacker position. Glad to see gettlemen knows this. Now we just have to draft Barkley to get our stud rb.
      If he is there he will be a Giant but I think the Browns will take him. Then we trade down for picks.

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      • #4
        *trade

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        • #5
          Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
          https://nypost.com/2018/03/08/ogletr...-lb-tradition/

          Excerpt: "Once upon a time, the New York Football Giants were the professional version of Linebacker U … Harry Carson and Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks and Pepper Johnson … A Big Blue Wrecking Crew to be sure.

          LT was the second pick of the 1981 draft at a time when Carson, Brad Van Pelt and Brian Kelley were already established and heralded as the Crunch Bunch.

          Former GM Jerry Reese understandably prioritized pass rushers and cornerbacks, so much so that the Giants had turned into Linebacker Who? while Eli Manning was running for his life behind an offensive line that was never upgraded.

          B.J. Goodson and Devon Kennard are the only linebackers drafted by Big Blue in the last six years and they were fourth- and fifth-round picks, respectively.

          The last time the Reese Giants drafted a linebacker before the third round was in 2009, when Clint Sintim, who could not stay on the field and went bust, was a second-round selection.

          Reese did trade for pedestrian LB Keith Rivers in 2012 and a year later for middle linebacker Jon Beason, who was terrific for a spell until he quickly broke down." Read more...
          Got some Red flags also in this article.

          "He does not come without risk — the Rams discarding him after a subpar 2017, too soft against the run, one year after guaranteeing him $31.4 million — but he is only 26 and a first-round pick in 2013, even after some pre-draft baggage.

          “Alec has evolved into a true leader on our football team,” GM Les Snead said after giving Ogletree the big deal. “His teammates voted him as a captain in back-to-back seasons for a reason — and it’s not only because of his production, but his character and resiliency.”

          And a year later, they were shopping the guy to the Chiefs as part of the Marcus Peters trade and unloading him to the Giants: beggars who can’t be choosers."
          Players come and go on the Free Agency Merry-Go-Round, but the N.Y. Giants will always be here!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
            https://nypost.com/2018/03/08/ogletr...-lb-tradition/

            Excerpt: "Once upon a time, the New York Football Giants were the professional version of Linebacker U … Harry Carson and Lawrence Taylor and Carl Banks and Pepper Johnson … A Big Blue Wrecking Crew to be sure.

            LT was the second pick of the 1981 draft at a time when Carson, Brad Van Pelt and Brian Kelley were already established and heralded as the Crunch Bunch.

            Former GM Jerry Reese understandably prioritized pass rushers and cornerbacks, so much so that the Giants had turned into Linebacker Who? while Eli Manning was running for his life behind an offensive line that was never upgraded.

            B.J. Goodson and Devon Kennard are the only linebackers drafted by Big Blue in the last six years and they were fourth- and fifth-round picks, respectively.

            The last time the Reese Giants drafted a linebacker before the third round was in 2009, when Clint Sintim, who could not stay on the field and went bust, was a second-round selection.

            Reese did trade for pedestrian LB Keith Rivers in 2012 and a year later for middle linebacker Jon Beason, who was terrific for a spell until he quickly broke down." Read more...
            We didm't draft him but nobody mentions Pierce. He was pretty good for us.

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            • #7
              Excellent move! The only thing potentially holding us back now from being a top 10 defense is the transition to 3-4, most specifically the adjustments that the D line will have to make. I kind of wish Kiwi was in his prime and with us now because he's be perfect for this setup. Still, talent-wise and on paper, this is our best looking lineup on this side of the ball since 2007.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TonyDee View Post

                We didm't draft him but nobody mentions Pierce. He was pretty good for us.
                The Beason move was a good move. Ca't really take that from Jerry. He came in and made am immediate impact, and after only being with the team for a week. His body ultimately wouldnt allow him to continue flourishing here but the move for him was a good one.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pacco_diablo View Post

                  The Beason move was a good move. Ca't really take that from Jerry. He came in and made am immediate impact, and after only being with the team for a week. His body ultimately wouldnt allow him to continue flourishing here but the move for him was a good one.
                  Problem is, Reese knew he was damaged goods and he proved it!
                  Players come and go on the Free Agency Merry-Go-Round, but the N.Y. Giants will always be here!

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                  • #10
                    our last 3 "ELITE" LB's, weren't even drafted by us. SMH

                    Pierce
                    Beason
                    Ogletree
                    Long Live the King

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bigbluejeep8888 View Post
                      With the running back position making a comeback, so is the linebacker position. Glad to see gettlemen knows this. Now we just have to draft Barkley to get our stud rb.
                      Thought the Giants were more about a strong OL than a stud HB. Were Morris, an older Andersson, Bradshaw and Jacobs high Giants selections?



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bigjeep View Post

                        Problem is, Reese knew he was damaged goods and he proved it!
                        It was risky move that ultimately didn't pan out but with a player like Beason it was kind of one of those risks worth taking. I guess I was equally surprised that Reese even cared about the position.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pacco_diablo View Post

                          It was risky move that ultimately didn't pan out but with a player like Beason it was kind of one of those risks worth taking. I guess I was equally surprised that Reese even cared about the position.
                          We gave our SB hero for him!
                          Players come and go on the Free Agency Merry-Go-Round, but the N.Y. Giants will always be here!

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                          • #14
                            The thing is, when you bring in all of these skinny LB's to cover, with spread offense backgrounds....Guys start to figure out, that teams are constructed to stop the pass ONLY. So now, guys know that they can get big up front, get a good running back, and make those skinny spread offense LB's pay dearly.

                            Everything in football comes 360. Then guys will start signing huge LB that can stop the run, the switch back to passing.

                            The catch up league
                            Long Live the King

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bigbluejeep8888 View Post
                              With the running back position making a comeback, so is the linebacker position. Glad to see gettlemen knows this. Now we just have to draft Barkley to get our stud rb.
                              I think with guys like Guise, Miichel, K. Johnson, Nick Chubb etc the Giant's will get a solid RB in this Draft. They need to fix O Line as well even if they get Norwell in FA. Trade Back to 5 or 6 to assure Denver or Jets they get their guy ( provided they don't get Cousins ) and draft Quenten Nelson from ND

                              Or Trade back with Buffalo and take LB Rasheem Evans from Bama
                              Football has been very, very good to us.
                              After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
                              But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

                              # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

                              1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
                              2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
                              3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
                              4-New York Giants!!!
                              5-NE
                              Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

                              ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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