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  • Ereck Flowers: Why hasn’t Giants’ left tackle reached his potential? MOVE HIM TO Left Guard?

    The New York Giants selected Ereck Flowers ninth overall in the 2015 NFL Draft fully aware that he wasn’t a finished product. That there would be a learning curve. He was young, unpolished, technically-flawed. Yet, he was a massive, powerful, athletic player with the potential to be something difficult, yet incredibly important, to find.

    A franchise left tackle.

    The Giants, in desperate need of young, talented offensive linemen, thought Flowers worth the risk. Here is Giants Vice President of Player Evaluation Marc Ross after the pick was announced:
    "He is a man-child physically. He is gigantic. He has long arms. He just turned 21 on Saturday. Super productive against the highest level of competition there, the Florida States and the Nebraskas. He is a good player who is just scratching the surface of how good he can be. ...

    "The guy is 20. They all have technique flaws. Nobody is ready-made to play in the NFL. Even fourth- or fifth-year seniors. They all can improve. He is just learning to play, but even with technique flaws, the guy was a productive and dominant player at times. ... A franchise left tackle is a rare commodity. There are not many of those guys around the league and we think this guy has the ability, the upside, the potential, the toughness, the smarts and the competitiveness to be a franchise left tackle for us."

    Things haven’t gone according to plan.


    An injury to Will Beatty just weeks after Flowers was drafted forced the Giants to play him at left tackle long before they wanted to. Flowers’ struggles have been deeper, and more obvious, than expected. There has been some progress — Flowers went from Pro Football Focus’s lowest-graded tackle in 2015 to 59th out of 80 tackles in 2016. That progress, though, has not been as pronounced as the Giants hoped. Flowers allowed 59 quarterback pressures in 2016, second-most in the league.

    Can Flowers play left tackle? Can he still become the anchor to the offensive line that the Giants believed they were getting? After two seasons, even the man who drafted him has begun to question whether or not Flowers can be what the Giants envisioned:


    https://www.bigblueview.com/2017/1/2...al-jerry-reese





    Question : Why can't he be moved to play Guard ? A huge guard?



    Last edited by brownelvis54; 03-09-2018, 12:43 PM.

  • #2
    try him at guard...kick the tires.. why the heck not..... ya don't know for sure until ya try. if not...move him to the right side as tackle or swing tackle so at least eli cans see it coming and does not have to play jittery all the time.
    Last edited by bigpoppy; 03-09-2018, 12:06 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by brownelvis54 View Post
      The New York Giants selected Ereck Flowers ninth overall in the 2015 NFL Draft fully aware that he wasn’t a finished product. That there would be a learning curve. He was young, unpolished, technically-flawed. Yet, he was a massive, powerful, athletic player with the potential to be something difficult, yet incredibly important, to find.

      A franchise left tackle.

      The Giants, in desperate need of young, talented offensive linemen, thought Flowers worth the risk. Here is Giants Vice President of Player Evaluation Marc Ross after the pick was announced:
      "He is a man-child physically. He is gigantic. He has long arms. He just turned 21 on Saturday. Super productive against the highest level of competition there, the Florida States and the Nebraskas. He is a good player who is just scratching the surface of how good he can be. ...

      "The guy is 20. They all have technique flaws. Nobody is ready-made to play in the NFL. Even fourth- or fifth-year seniors. They all can improve. He is just learning to play, but even with technique flaws, the guy was a productive and dominant player at times. ... A franchise left tackle is a rare commodity. There are not many of those guys around the league and we think this guy has the ability, the upside, the potential, the toughness, the smarts and the competitiveness to be a franchise left tackle for us."
      Things haven’t gone according to plan.

      An injury to Will Beatty just weeks after Flowers was drafted forced the Giants to play him at left tackle long before they wanted to. Flowers’ struggles have been deeper, and more obvious, than expected. There has been some progress — Flowers went from Pro Football Focus’s lowest-graded tackle in 2015 to 59th out of 80 tackles in 2016. That progress, though, has not been as pronounced as the Giants hoped. Flowers allowed 59 quarterback pressures in 2016, second-most in the league.

      Can Flowers play left tackle? Can he still become the anchor to the offensive line that the Giants believed they were getting? After two seasons, even the man who drafted him has begun to question whether or not Flowers can be what the Giants envisioned:


      https://www.bigblueview.com/2017/1/2...al-jerry-reese





      Question : Why can't he be moved to play Guard ? A huge guard?



      Because moving positions successfully on the OL is a lot harder than just saying it.

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      • #4
        Move him to the bench.. Moving from one side to the other will still showcase his technique issues.
        3 years of poor play and now the light bulb is going to switch on for the kid?

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        • #5
          Flowers issues will be even worse at guard. The guy is simply a bad NFL player. Positions changes are not going to help him. But we are stuck with him in 2018, so do whatever we need to and cut our losses after 2018.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CGYgiant View Post

            Because moving positions successfully on the OL is a lot harder than just saying it.
            Do not doubt what you're saying is true... the problem is we're stuck paying him regardless also he is a big boy perhaps moving him to guard can help in some way... it's a shame that such a high draft pick is wasted

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            • #7
              He has reached his potential.. bad hands and bad feet= disaster for tackles in the nfl

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              • #8
                Originally posted by brownelvis54 View Post

                Do not doubt what you're saying is true... the problem is we're stuck paying him regardless also he is a big boy perhaps moving him to guard can help in some way... it's a shame that such a high draft pick is wasted
                It looks wasted at this point. If he can't play OT he'll be a backup at best

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by primetime View Post
                  Move him to the bench.. Moving from one side to the other will still showcase his technique issues.
                  3 years of poor play and now the light bulb is going to switch on for the kid?
                  I'd like you to meet the delusional people expecting Eli Apple to be a shutdown corner...lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BigBlueAllDay View Post

                    I'd like you to meet the delusional people expecting Eli Apple to be a shutdown corner...lol
                    They’re the same people who believe the earth is flat...

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                    • #11
                      I still think Flowers can be a decent NFL OL ...just not as a LT. That being said way to go JR drafting Flowers and having him play with no TE or RB help good one...
                      Originally Posted by jmike

                      "Barry Sanders has the most negative yardage plays of any player in NFL history by a comfortable margin. He was the major contributor to their biggest offensive issues... Honestly the single most overrated player in any sport ever has to be Barry Sanders. Well, if winning games is your goal. If you want highlights though, he's your man."

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                      • #12
                        If not guard on OLine, would it be plausible to move him to DT on DLine?
                        #80

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                        • #13
                          He should have spoken with DJ Fluker about career trajectory. Fluker turned it around once kicked to the inside.
                          Long Live the King

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                          • #14
                            He's a backup caliber player and with his terrible feet and non-existent technique that has shown zero improvement in 3 seasons it doesn't matter where you put him

                            will the new CS be able to salvage something with him? I'm not optimistic.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gee718 View Post
                              He should have spoken with DJ Fluker about career trajectory. Fluker turned it around once kicked to the inside.
                              Did Fluker really “turn it around “? As far as I can tell he is looking for work still and is average at best. I guess you could say he found a way to survive. That is what Flowers needs to find at this point - something that can keep him employed in the league. He is Greg Robinson part 2 and will soon be an afterthought.

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