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  • Even if the Giants are right about Saquon Barkley, if the Jets are right about Sam Darnold, then the Giants are wrong

    http://beta.nydailynews.com/sports/f...icle-1.3961667

    Excerpt: "There are all sorts of fun and interesting places to start with the first round of this NFL draft, but here is one as good as any in Football New York: I think Dave Gettleman, the new Giants general manager, the front office equivalent of a career gym rat, is a perfect, tough, no-nonsense guy for this point in Giants history. It is, by the way, a point in their history where they have once again hit the skids, and have started to make their last Super Bowl feel as if Simms and Taylor played in it.

    I think Gettleman is sincere when he says he loves Saquon Barkley as much as Ernie Accorsi was head-over-heels in love with Eli Manning once.

    Okay to all that.

    But I also think Gettleman should have taken a quarterback instead of a running back, as gifted as this particular running back is; and that he just let a franchise quarterback go to the team that plays in his own building. Gettleman says he doesn't care what the Jets do, or words to that effect. Well, he ought to. You think our baseball teams don't watch what the other is doing? Come on.

    Gettleman got a total star in Barkley, you bet he did, the way Jerry Reese got this kind of star with Odell Beckham Jr. But as great as Barkley is, and he was great at Penn State, you have to tell me which total star, high-draft-pick running back ever carried his team to a Super Bowl. Everybody thought Ezekiel Elliott was going to do that with the Cowboys. Let's see when he plays in the big game if Dak Prescott doesn't turn out to be a star quarterback (which, by the way, I'm not sure he is).

    Everybody talks about the great Emmitt Smith. How many Super Bowls would he have won, or even played in, without Troy Aikman? Say it again: Ernie was in love with a quarterback who he thought would win Super Bowls for the Giants, and then did win Super Bowls. Twice. To compare a running back with a quarterback in this league, at this time, simply doesn't track, no matter how just about everybody in town — with the notable exception of Manish Mehta of the Daily News — has thrown down and thrown in with this pick, as if the earth would have stopped spinning on its axis if the Giants had taken Saquon Barkley of Penn State.

    If somebody at the Giants wants to tell me that Davis Webb is their hands-down quarterback of the future, well, let somebody from the Giants say that. But the idea that you can't take a quarterback like Darnold, or Baker Mayfield, or any of the other quarterbacks taken in the first round of this draft, if you're not completely certain that they will punch a ticket to Canton someday is just more folly. Gettleman said that with a pick this high, you have to see the player wearing one of those yellow blazers at Canton someday. With all due respect to the Giants GM, who passed that rule?

    Now we hear that Eli Manning is slinging and flinging, as Clyde Frazier might say, the way he did when he was at his best happens to be just plain ridiculous. If Eli is what he was five or six years ago, then somebody needs to explain to me how the Giants didn't win another Super Bowl even two years ago when Eli was two years younger and they dominated the key statistics in team defense. Eli's play was backed by that kind of defense in 2016. He had Beckham, the king of the high seas. And the Giants went into Lambeau and got smacked around by Aaron Rodgers, who WAS at the top of his game, in the first round of the playoffs." Read more...
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

  • #2
    Eli haters are going to hate,nothing you can do.

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    • #3
      Good article.

      I agree with the notion that the quarterback position is more valued than the running back position. Regardless of what kind of career Barkley has, if Sam Darnold turns out to be a great quarterback, then drafting Barkley will be a mistake.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BronxBomberBlue View Post
        Good article.

        I agree with the notion that the quarterback position is more valued than the running back position. Regardless of what kind of career Barkley has, if Sam Darnold turns out to be a great quarterback, then drafting Barkley will be a mistake.
        No,taking some one the caliber of Barkley would never be a mistake.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by G1.. View Post

          No,taking some one the caliber of Barkley would never be a mistake.


          A great quarterback is more valuable to a team than a great running back.

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          • #6
            No, the big mistake would've been letting the Jets influence your draft board.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BlueReign View Post
              No, the big mistake would've been letting the Jets influence your draft board.
              +1

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              • #8
                It seems Lupica is a just take a QB any ole QB with the pick guy . I guess Lup is a red flag ignorer. With his insight on what and when to pick , he should be a GM. I wonder why he is not.
                "Three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad." Darrell Royal

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BronxBomberBlue View Post



                  A great quarterback is more valuable to a team than a great running back.
                  There were no great QB's in this draft ,there is on the other hand a general consensus that Barkley has that ability to be great.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by G1.. View Post

                    There were no great QB's in this draft ,there is on the other hand a general consensus that Barkley has that ability to be great.


                    You can't make that assessment now regarding this year's quarterback class.

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                    • #11
                      Yes I can and I very well might be wrong...................but I'm not.

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                      • #12
                        Whoever contends at a SB level first is right. Contending at a SB level is being able to win a playoff game and contend against the other real contenders. It’s the only reason to be a franchise. It’s the reason they play.

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                        • #13
                          ryan leaf, tim couch, akili smith, vick, carr, harrington, c palmer, rivers, alex smith, v young, matt ryan, stafford, mark sanchez, bradford, c newton, luck, rg3, bortles, mariota, winston, wentz, and goff

                          how many of these quarterbacks are great and worth a #2 pick?

                          This list of QBs are those drafted top 5 that have not won a superbowl.

                          P. Manning, E. Manning, J. Flacco

                          this is a list of QBs drafted top 5 that HAVE won a SB.

                          If the writer wanted to wage a bet on who ends up more successful using SB wins as a measurement, I like my odds. I'd take the bet

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TEM View Post
                            It seems Lupica is a just take a QB any ole QB with the pick guy . I guess Lup is a red flag ignorer. With his insight on what and when to pick , he should be a GM. I wonder why he is not.
                            GM's are accountable but media types can be wrong all the time and not worry about accountability this is why Mike Lupica likes being a talking head.
                            Its a great job if your mediocre.
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                            LT - Carson - Kelley - Van Pelt

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Martin View Post

                              GM's are accountable but media types can be wrong all the time and not worry about accountability this is why Mike Lupica likes being a talking head.
                              Its a great job if your mediocre.
                              They won't get fired or called out if their opinion is incorrect.

                              They can say what they want . I would love to see a sports reporter that call out other reporters for their failed arogrance.
                              "Three things can happen when you throw the ball, and two of them are bad." Darrell Royal

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