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  • #46
    Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
    ok.....someone who has sat in on meetings with the team and heard them discuss a weeks key word definitions is wrong......ooooook

    believe what you will my friend ...but it has nothing to do with the clock
    i think u both arent understanding each others point.

    if eli uses the omaha omaha as the clocks about to run down to signal to the OL the next cadence is the snap cadence, then, omaha is used to do both simply because the clocks running down. he's stating omaha omaha bc the play clocks running down, and he's signaling to the OL as u say YA what the snap cadence is going to be (after the last omaha). The OL doesnt look at the game clock thats eli's responsibility, so, it serves both purposes.

    if i'm wrong could u pls explain? bc thats the way I see it and I believe i have a solid understanding of it.

    i also believe that i know at least 1 play check. "east gogo" or "west gogo" signals screen to the wr who is either east or west...so funny some of the terms used. i saw a poster mention salad as one and yes i remember that as well i believe he used that in sb 46.

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    • #47
      Just want to see this:



      "You tried your best Kevin, I'll take it from here"
      WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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      • #48
        Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
        i think u both arent understanding each others point.

        if eli uses the omaha omaha as the clocks about to run down to signal to the OL the next cadence is the snap cadence, then, omaha is used to do both simply because the clocks running down. he's stating omaha omaha bc the play clocks running down, and he's signaling to the OL as u say YA what the snap cadence is going to be (after the last omaha). The OL doesnt look at the game clock thats eli's responsibility, so, it serves both purposes.

        if i'm wrong could u pls explain? bc thats the way I see it and I believe i have a solid understanding of it.

        i also believe that i know at least 1 play check. "east gogo" or "west gogo" signals screen to the wr who is either east or west...so funny some of the terms used. i saw a poster mention salad as one and yes i remember that as well i believe he used that in sb 46.
        He is saying Sally not salad

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        • #49
          what ever Eli is saying it aint working. Pick some new words already...
          maybe that will help the offense...
          "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
          You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Rudyy View Post
            So...what does Omaha mean again?
            A City in Nebraska

            I wish he would change it to Punxsutawney
            “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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            • #51
              watching the film Eli uses a whole lot more of "180" and "5-18" this season

              and it sure does seem like "Omaha" does get used when the clock is low.....but there are multiple times when the clock is low ...down to2, 3 or 4 seconds where "Omaha" is not used.

              so this leads me to believe that it is not used because Eli feels he can fit the whole original cadence in before zero.......and "Omaha" skips straight to the snap count when there is not time for the full cadence

              so this has me more confused than before I watched the film because I have sat and listened to the coaches install a weeks definitions....and "Omaha" had multiple meanings that week
              Last edited by YATittle1962; 10-03-2013, 02:59 PM.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                A City in Nebraska

                I wish he would change it to Punxsutawney
                Lol
                Mood: WOOF!

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Geebanga718 View Post


                  My O-line is like a box of chocolates
                  LOL, LOL, LOL!!! Well done!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by YATittle1962 View Post
                    watching the film Eli uses a whole lot more of "180" and "5-18" this season

                    and it sure does seem like "Omaha" does get used when the clock is low.....but there are multiple times when the clock is low ...down to2, 3 or 4 seconds where "Omaha" is not used.

                    so this leads me to believe that it is not used because Eli feels he can fit the whole original cadence in before zero.......and "Omaha" skips straight to the snap count when there is not time for the full cadence

                    so this has me more confused than before I watched the film because I have sat and listened to the coaches install a weeks definitions....and "Omaha" had multiple meanings that week
                    YA- decent of you to go through the film and follow up on this. When did you sit in on the coaches' meeting?

                    I don't remember if it was Aikman or Collinsworth, but maybe 4 or 5 years ago they were opining that "omaha" (uttered once, followed by whatever) was Eli calling an audible. Which I thought was stupid at the time, because as you say, the keyword's definition changed from game to game.

                    But it just seems to have evolved to being used in these "Oh ****, no time" situations
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by BlueSanta View Post

                      But even if you take the 'Omaha" out of the equation, my initial point still stands. We have a very bad habit of freely giving away the "snap advantage" on offense. We aren't alone, a number of NFL teams do this, but we are 1 of the worst offenders. For a team that is sound up front this isn't a big deal. But we are really struggling in the trenches and giving away any advantage, even a small 1, is a bad decision.
                      I agree. And giving Eli sufficient time to get a full read on the D, get through his whole cadence and call out protections - our line can use all the help it can get at this point.
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                      • #56
                        every 6 months i see this same topic, and i will ask , what makes everyone so sure Eli is capable of running the entire offense? obviously his decisions aren't always the best ones. the 2min drill works because it catches the D off guard and it works when trailing because teams back off to protect a lead. when teams stay aggressive it doesnt seem to work well. if we ran it all the time it would lose its effectiveness.

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                        • #57
                          Let's get back to basics. The coach(es) can talk to Eli when the 40 second play clock starts. The communications are turned off at the 15 second mark. So any adjustments after the first 25 seconds are being made by Eli on his own. I don't have anything scientific to support this, but I feel Eli is at the LOS by the 15 second mark most of the time. So is there really a persistent delay from the coaches?
                          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                            Let's get back to basics. The coach(es) can talk to Eli when the 40 second play clock starts. The communications are turned off at the 15 second mark. So any adjustments after the first 25 seconds are being made by Eli on his own. I don't have anything scientific to support this, but I feel Eli is at the LOS by the 15 second mark most of the time. So is there really a persistent delay from the coaches?
                            Do they really turn it off after 25 seconds? Never knew that. So if Eli gets the call at 15 seconds, it takes about 5 seconds to spit it back out to the team in the huddle, then 5 seconds to line up and a couple seconds to snap. Seems about right.
                            WE ALREADY HAVE A GREAT RUNNING BACK:

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                              Let's get back to basics. The coach(es) can talk to Eli when the 40 second play clock starts. The communications are turned off at the 15 second mark. So any adjustments after the first 25 seconds are being made by Eli on his own. I don't have anything scientific to support this, but I feel Eli is at the LOS by the 15 second mark most of the time. So is there really a persistent delay from the coaches?
                              agreed , its on Eli he has the southern slow step and he takes time setting his protection(which he is really good at) but its time consuming.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                                agreed , its on Eli he has the southern slow step and he takes time setting his protection(which he is really good at) but its time consuming.
                                The "southern slow step." You are a gem lol
                                “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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