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  • #16
    Originally posted by jomo View Post
    That is probably true. With an average OL we would be at least 2-2. How long have we known that there was a looming problem on the OL? 4 or 5 years right? And who decided that Beatty was first worth a high draft choice and then after his first contract was up (with not much to show for it other than sitting on the bench and injured) that he was worth a big contract?

    Yes I agree that it is frustrating that our main lack of talent is loaded in one unit BUT it is more frustrating for me that the GM made bad decision after bad decision in this area over 4 years to put us in this spot. Petrus, Brewer, etal grrrrrr.
    I'm a JR homer, but he seriously messed up there. I mean, the # of picks we wasted on OLinemen and not one of them (except Beatty who's now not living up to his contract) has panned out. He needs to buy some tackle glasses or something.

    I think we knew our oline was aging but we always had more pressing issues in the past. WR, Secondary/CB, etc. Everyone saw it coming, but the oline definitely was not a priority. I think we were just hoping to find another gem or barely scrape by like we did in 2011.

    Now it's biting us in the butt.
    http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

    Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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    • #17
      Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
      I'm a JR homer, but he seriously messed up there. I mean, the # of picks we wasted on OLinemen and not one of them (except Beatty who's now not living up to his contract) has panned out. He needs to buy some tackle glasses or something.

      I think we knew our oline was aging but we always had more pressing issues in the past. WR, Secondary/CB, etc. Everyone saw it coming, but the oline definitely was not a priority. I think we were just hoping to find another gem or barely scrape by like we did in 2011.

      Now it's biting us in the butt.
      All very well stated. I don't mean to kill the guy because he obviously saw it coming but the number of mistakes he's made in trying to reload the OL is breath taking.
      No one remembers who came in second.

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      • #18
        Tony Dungy said after the loss this past sunday that he thinks the Giants just don't have enough talented players to win in the NFL...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
          If the winless Detroit Lions were a 1, and the 2007 Regular Season Patriots were a 100.......I'd grade the Giants as a 40.


          Just to be a goofball and run with this a bit....here is how I'd grade them for their performance so far this year.

          Offensive line: 10 (awful)
          Linebackers: 20 (can't stop run, blitz, cover running backs, or tight ends, but otherwise some really nice guys).
          Defensive ends: 40 (JPP has been nonfactor, Tuck has been okay, Kiwi has struggled)
          Defensive tackles: 70 (good all around efforts, would be higher if they had some backup).
          Wide receivers: 50 (some good plays, but miscommunications, dropped balls, etc....need to do alot better because rest of the team needs it).
          Corners: 70 (overall pretty good....given up some big pass plays but it's expected in this arena league.
          Safeties: 60 (again, not bad....Mundy has been a bright spot).
          Punting: 30 (some really sloppy stuff that has hurt the team).
          Kicking: 30 (Josh Brown letting the team down with deflating misses on easy opportunities.....has to do better or get cut asap).
          Special Teams coverage: 20 (given up some huge plays.....mistakes galore)
          QB: 50 (Eli has been swamped, but he's made some unforced errors and is holding on to the ball too long as well).

          Coaching: 60 (not much to work with, but they need to make adjustments and takes some chances with the young guys).
          GM: 20 (misread team talent, left gaping holes on offense and defense)
          +1
          Bill Loyal to the NYG logo

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JesseJames View Post
            Tony Dungy said after the loss this past sunday that he thinks the Giants just don't have enough talented players to win in the NFL...
            we do, we just dont have enough good Offensive lineman to win in the NFL, if u look at teh skill players we are loaded

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