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    I started to give some thought to what I felt the Giants would need to do if they were going to win on Sunday. Of course the strength of the team for the season has been their offense, so I assumed we would put up at least enough points to win (20-30 range). That led me to the defensive side of the ball, where as we all know our team is drastically different today than it was 1 month ago.

    The reputation the Falcons have is that of a team that likes to run, which worried me a bit at first. They are a dome team, and all Giant fans are hoping that plays to our advantage, BUT having a good run game is perfect for the outdoor weather. Then I decided to take a look at the last 8 games the Falcons have played this season and I was severely underwhelmed with their offensive production.

    They have had 4 games passing over 300 yards, and 3 games rushing over 100 yards. Yesterdays finale vs TB throws a wrench in to the numbers, the passing yards were way down, and the rushing yards were way up.

    Over the 8 games they are avg 130 rushing yards per game, if we take away their last game, they are averaging 113 rushing yards per game.

    Over the 8 games they are avg 329.5 passing yards per game, if we take out their last game, they are averaging 351 passing yards per game.

    (I also crunched the #s without the last game because it is a statistical anamoly and won't really help us try to get an idea of what type of offense ATL has).

    ATL is 2-5 vs teams .500 or better this season and 2-3 in outdoor games

    Over the last 3 games (not TB though), ATL is avg 72.6 rushing yards per game, and 339 passing yards per game.

    For comparison:

    Over the last 8 games the NYG are avg 115 rushing yards allowed per game (which would be about 15th in the league)

    Over the last 8 games the NYG are avg 271 passing yards allowed per game (which would be around 31st in the league)

    Over the last 3 games the #s are much better, 92 rushing yards per game, 218 passing. I'm putting more stock in the #s over the last three games, not because I am a Giants fan, but because to me they carry more weight than #s from two months ago.

    The NYG are 6-4 vs teams with a .500 or better record

    What I took away from this research:

    ATL is not as dependent/dominate rushing as I had thought

    ATL did not face a schedule nearly as difficult as ours & really only has 1 win I am impressed with (over DET)

    We, as JR put it, are "battle tested" and I think have proven can hold our own vs the better teams in the league


    Here are the links to the stats I used:

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/nyg/2011.htm
    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/atl/2011.htm
    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...true&Submit=Go

  • #2
    Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

    nice post!!!

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    • #3
      Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

      [quote user="Sundown"]nice post!!![/quote]

      Thank you.


      I think the ATL offense is a lot like the DAL offense.

      2 WR threat
      1 TE threat
      good RB
      1 QB who has put up very good #s but has yet to do it in the playoffs, have a game where afterward you say "that team won the game simply because of their QB"

      Has ANY player in the NFL been less deserving of a nickname than 0-2 in the playoffs Matty "Ice" ??

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      • #4
        Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

        [quote user="TrueBlue07"][quote user="Sundown"]nice post!!![/quote]

        Thank you.


        I think the ATL offense is a lot like the DAL offense.*

        2 WR threat
        1 TE threat
        good RB
        1 QB who has put up very good #s but has yet to do it in the playoffs, have a game where afterward you say "that team won the game simply because of their QB"

        Has ANY player in the NFL been less deserving of a nickname than 0-2 in the playoffs Matty "Ice" ??
        [/quote]

        I really think we can win this game the same way as yesterday. The d-line will get after Matty

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        • #5
          Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

          Nice post, thanks. I'm more concerned with our pass defense than run defense at this point. I hope Fewell lets the players lose.

          One other thing, we need to make sure we wrap our opponents up. Too many missed tackles this year.

          If we play exactly how we did against the Cowboys (minus those scary fumbles and actually scoring points off TO) then we should win this one.

          --

          On the flip end, they have a below average pass D and a top 10 run D, so that should be interesting. I hope Eli lights them up, but also BJ and AB have a good game.

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          • #6
            Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

            Looking at their schedule, they did have a very easy one compared to us. I know we lost to the top 3 NFC teams, but two of those were very close and could have gone either way.

            But, if an Atlanta fan did this same post on their forums, you have to think they'd say: our running game is inconsistent, and we don't have a great pass OR run defense. However, we are at our healthiest on D than we have been all year and have looked a lot better the last two weeks.

            I seriously hope the defensive play last night wasn't a fluke.

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            • #7
              Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

              another huge aspect is that atlanta liked to run 5 and 7 step drop backs to let their wr's get downfield.

              against our dline that is practically suicide. if atlanta tries to negate that and throw quick 5 yard slants and stuff, that takes them out of their element as they like to run to set up the big play.

              if we can limit the big plays, we'll win. maybe even by a couple scores. first, stop the run. second, try and get an early lead.

              that will force atlanta into their deeper qb drop backs and allow our dline to tee off on ryan.

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              • #8
                Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                [quote user="DJloves"]Nice post, thanks. I'm more concerned with our pass defense than run defense at this point. I hope Fewell lets the players lose.

                One other thing, we need to make sure we wrap our opponents up. Too many missed tackles this year.

                If we play exactly how we did against the Cowboys (minus those scary fumbles and actually scoring points off TO) then we should win this one.

                --

                On the flip end, they have a below average pass D and a top 10 run D, so that should be interesting. I hope Eli lights them up, but also BJ and AB have a good game.[/quote]

                Thank you.


                After looking at the numbers, I would agree, our pass defense is where our worries should be. As per usual, I don't see Webster getting torched. He may not be Revis-esque in a lock down mode, but he won't be torched either. It will depend on whether or not the pass rush can rattle "Matty Ice" (I can't say that nickname without rolling my eyes).

                Our tackling has been much better lately. When we've gotten to someone we've wrapped them up, for the most part. Grant needs to understand he can no longer lay the wood on anyone, and make a sure tackle rather than bouncing off a guy and letting him get an extra 10-15.

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                • #9
                  Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                  In reality it really should be Eli Ice.... although I suppose it does not sound as catchy as Matty Ice.

                  Let's put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner

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                  • #10
                    Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                    [quote user="giantsfan420"]another huge aspect is that atlanta liked to run 5 and 7 step drop backs to let their wr's get downfield.

                    against our dline that is practically suicide. if atlanta tries to negate that and throw quick 5 yard slants and stuff, that takes them out of their element as they like to run to set up the big play.

                    if we can limit the big plays, we'll win. maybe even by a couple scores. first, stop the run. second, try and get an early lead.

                    that will force atlanta into their deeper qb drop backs and allow our dline to tee off on ryan.[/quote]


                    ATL is 12th in the NFL in 40+ yard plays, and 13th in 20+ yard plays, so they definitely are a 5-7 step drop team. I really do not see them being able to light up the scoreboard on us if that is their game plan.



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                    • #11
                      Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                      [quote user="TrueBlue07"] As per usual, I don't see Webster getting torched. He may not be Revis-esque in a lock down mode, but he won't be torched either.
                      [/quote]

                      I agree Webby is solid for the most part and I assume he'll be matched up with Roddy White. I am worried about the underneath quick three step drops to Julio Jones over the middle. Dez absolutely torched Webster last night in the 1st quarter on one play, which should have been a big gain had Romo not overthrown him.

                      Let's put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner

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                      • #12
                        Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                        that was some seriously commendable research brother

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                        • #13
                          Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                          [quote user="Giantz4Life"][quote user="TrueBlue07"] As per usual, I don't see Webster getting torched. He may not be Revis-esque in a lock down mode, but he won't be torched either.
                          [/quote]

                          I agree Webby is solid for the most part and I assume he'll be matched up with Roddy White. I am worried about the underneath quick three step drops to Julio Jones over the middle. Dez absolutely torched Webster last night in the 1st quarter on one play, which should have been a big gain had Romo not overthrown him.
                          [/quote]

                          That was in press-man coverage on the first series of the game, 3rd and 4 I believe...you're right, that was 6 if Romo hits him. It's a big gamble type play though. Fewell is trusting Webster will lock him up for 2 seconds and throw off the timing, which didn't really happen on that play. Dez is a huge WR 6'2 218lbs, White is 6'0 211lbs so he is slightly smaller.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                            [quote user="TrueBlue07"][quote user="Giantz4Life"][quote user="TrueBlue07"] As per usual, I don't see Webster getting torched. He may not be Revis-esque in a lock down mode, but he won't be torched either.
                            [/quote]

                            I agree Webby is solid for the most part and I assume he'll be matched up with Roddy White. I am worried about the underneath quick three step drops to Julio Jones over the middle. Dez absolutely torched Webster last night in the 1st quarter on one play, which should have been a big gain had Romo not overthrown him.
                            [/quote]

                            That was in press-man coverage on the first series of the game, 3rd and 4 I believe...you're right, that was 6 if Romo hits him. It's a big gamble type play though. Fewell is trusting Webster will lock him up for 2 seconds and throw off the timing, which didn't really happen on that play. Dez is a huge WR 6'2 218lbs, White is 6'0 211lbs so he is slightly smaller.
                            [/quote]

                            Yes you're correct about the press-man. That is a tough assignment for any CB with Bryant's size. Webby's been really solid this year and made some really clutch plays. I like his matchup versus Roddy White more because as you stated White is not as physically imposing or strong as Dez. The real question is Aaron Ross versus Julio Jones. This could present an issue so I think we may need to double Jones at certain times.

                            Nice write-up by the way in your original post.

                            Let's put the women and children to bed and go lookin' for dinner

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                            • #15
                              Re: Preview of the ATL Offense vs NYG Defense

                              you're right, Julio Jones is huge. 6'3 220. He's actually bigger than both Dez & White. It should be interesting to see which guy Webster lines up against most of the time. I think ATL's offense may actually be a little more dynamic than DAL's. We already knew going in to the playoffs we would live and die with our pass rush, but seeing the imposing sizes of the ATL WRs reinforces that.

                              Thanks for the props on the post too.

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