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  • Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

    http://www.giants101.com/2012/01/05/...-2007-version/


    Surprising...I mean its not like that's what he was "supposed" to say.

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    Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

    He must be smokIn!!

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      Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

      he's right.

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        Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

        [quote user="Easy-Duz-It"]he's right.[/quote]


        It is an interesting debate. The problem is the DLine of the last 2 weeks, and hopefully the next 4 games is not the same line we saw from week 1 - week 15. I think this is probably something that can be more accurately assessed after the playoffs are over. This way we have more of a sample size than 2 games.


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          Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

          Arguable on either side. Star power is similar: Osi, Tuck, Strahan vs JPP, Osi, Tuck. What it boils down to is depth. I think we're better this year mainly because have Kiwi to play end also.

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            Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

            100% Healthy Osi and hes right. I mean we need to think about Toff and even Mathias who is really an extension of this DL. Jovel is nasty and Canty is having sick yr

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              Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

              I would hate to say that considering Michael Strahan, The Giants Greatest Defensive End, played on that 2007 team. I like the talent and hustle of JPP...but I think the 07 version of Tuck was 10 times better than Tuck present day. Osi is still a beast tho too like in '07. I think our DT play was better in '07 too, but in 07 we didnt have Kiwi at the end of the season. Its tough to call.

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              • #8
                Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

                Age has to be taken into consideration. Stray obviously had the best career of anyone, and JPP has a long way to go before he's Stray. However, a 23 year old JPP is better than a 37 year old Stray IMO. Although Tuck in '07 was better, but hopefully he's getting his '07 feel back as he looks more like the '07 Tuck lately.

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                • #9
                  Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

                  I think you guys are comparing JPP to Strahan unfairly. Defensive line also includes our Tackles who are better now than Cofield and Robbins then. Our depth has also improved in my opinion.

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                    Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version



                    todays d-line is better imo!




                    Fewell has more toys (d-ends) to play with than Spags. a lot of Spags pressure was manfactured whereas Fewell uses the front 4 more.




                    besides Kiwi and Tolley are more experienced. they provide valuable support.

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                      Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

                      [quote user="pino"]I think you guys are comparing JPP to Strahan unfairly. Defensive line also includes our Tackles who are better now than Cofield and Robbins then. Our depth has also improved in my opinion.[/quote]

                      I agree with you about depth. I disagree that the Stray JPP comparisons are unfair. It is too early to say JPP will have the career of Strahan. But as great as Stray still was at 37, I think JPP is more explosive. Remember I'm talking about Stray at 37, not 27.

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                        Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

                        [quote user="Jobarulz"][quote user="pino"]I think you guys are comparing JPP to Strahan unfairly. Defensive line also includes our Tackles who are better now than Cofield and Robbins then. Our depth has also improved in my opinion.[/quote]

                        I agree with you about depth. I disagree that the Stray JPP comparisons are unfair. It is too early to say JPP will have the career of Strahan. But as great as Stray still was at 37, I think JPP is more explosive. Remember I'm talking about Stray at 37, not 27.[/quote]

                        That's not what I mean by an unfair comparison. I mean O'hara didn't make those comments because he thinks JPP is an upgrade over Stray. He's talking about the Line as a whole, so it's not JPP vs. Stray, it's 2007 vs 2011. Tuck, Tolly, and Kiwi has improved since then. Then you have Osi that never lost a step. Add Joseph, Canty, and JPP. This line is clearly better in my opinion.

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                          Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

                          [quote user="pino"][quote user="Jobarulz"][quote user="pino"]I think you guys are comparing JPP to Strahan unfairly. Defensive line also includes our Tackles who are better now than Cofield and Robbins then. Our depth has also improved in my opinion.[/quote]

                          I agree with you about depth. I disagree that the Stray JPP comparisons are unfair. It is too early to say JPP will have the career of Strahan. But as great as Stray still was at 37, I think JPP is more explosive. Remember I'm talking about Stray at 37, not 27.[/quote]

                          That's not what I mean by an unfair comparison. I mean O'hara didn't make those comments because he thinks JPP is an upgrade over Stray. He's talking about the Line as a whole, so it's not JPP vs. Stray, it's 2007 vs 2011. Tuck, Tolly, and Kiwi has improved since then. Then you have Osi that never lost a step. Add Joseph, Canty, and JPP. This line is clearly better in my opinion.[/quote]

                          Oh okay gotcha.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

                            Shaun luva da cocaina!! No way no how. Fred Robbins was playing better than any DT on our team now, especially versus the run. J-tuck was coming from DT on a lot of downs in 2007 with Strahan at the end and Osi on the other side. 2007 was a HISTORIC D-line. The real MVP of the SB if you ask me. Created pressure on every down versus any and every offensive line we faced. We didn't do that this year. Breese was just as comfortable as he could be if we didn't blitz. 2007 was light years better versus the run and substantially better versus the pass.

                            NO CONTEST!!

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                              Re: Shaun O’Hara: Current New York Giants Defensive Line Better than 2007 Version

                              [quote user="Defcon4"]Shaun luva da cocaina!! No way no how. Fred Robbins was playing better than any DT on our team now, especially versus the run. J-tuck was coming from DT on a lot of downs in 2007 with Strahan at the end and Osi on the other side. 2007 was a HISTORIC D-line. The real MVP of the SB if you ask me. Created pressure on every down versus any and every offensive line we faced. We didn't do that this year. Breese was just as comfortable as he could be if we didn't blitz. 2007 was light years better versus the run and substantially better versus the pass.

                              NO CONTEST!![/quote]

                              it's amazing how much winning affects people's memories. to say 2007 was better NO CONTEST!!! is asinine.

                              robbins had a good year in 07, but i think maybe you are confusing his '07 season with his '08 season, which is the year he really shined.

                              that d-line was historic only because we won the super bowl. (not to take anything away from them, they were great)....but they really weren't as dominating as people make them out to be. until maybe the playoff run. yes they led the league in sacks, but that was also bolstered by a 12 sack performance against the eagles. i'm not trying to say that d-line wasn't great, but it wasn't as unstoppable as their reputation makes them out to be. thank the super bowl ring for that.

                              the truth is, the giants weren't a dominate team in '07 until the playoff run. they were a very good team, but other teams weren't really scared of them.

                              i'm hoping for more of the same in this playoff run. and going into it, it is of my opinion that we have the better line now. more depth, and a young jpp who is dominating the league. they keep 'eatin' and we just might witness some magic over the next month.

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