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    Posted Today, 02:21 PM




    I just reviewed the
    NFLN Replay of the DAL at NYG Week 17 game. Two division rivals who know
    each other, sparring off in a winner takes the division and a #4 seed,
    loser goes home game. The NYG take the division with a 9-7 record. Here
    are my thoughts after watching this game:



    -In watching this game I saw several players that should have Falcon
    uniforms on. I had Hynoski in my 2011 mock draft. Looks like he might
    end up being a solid FB. Now we have to deal with Ovie's injury and
    contract demands. Many draft mockers said we should draft JPP. Most
    mockers said he would be a bust. Jeez. TD could have drafted Dez Bryant
    and Hakim Nicks with ONE pick each. He also could have kept Laurent
    Robinson and Boley. Wow.



    -The NYG defense was stout against run. They also picked up 6 sacks and 7
    hits on Romo. Mostly with a four man rush. They won the turnover battle
    2/0.



    -Their offense put up 31 points and over 400 yards. They couldn't really
    run the ball but their Oline shut down every thing DAL threw at em in
    the passing game. Eli stayed clean and put up 300+. They won the
    explosive play battle 6/2.



    -The CowGirls made hella mistakes. Missed tackles, bad angles, muffs,
    penalties, overthrows, missed sacks, you name it.They looked like
    keystone Cowboys. Kinda like we did against CHI, SEA, GB, NO1, HOU and
    TB1. That's what killed em.



    -I couldn't believe how similar the Giants are to the Falcons on both
    offense and defense. The passing game is almost identical. A lot of
    short drops with quick slants, curls, ins and outs. EmDiggy might have
    been right though. I think we might be a little more vertical than them.
    We run a lot more, flies, posts and corners. Gotta check the YIA.



    -Call me crazy but Eric Weems looks like Cruz. I still think buddy could
    get to that level. Can we please throw him some balls? He is just as
    fast, just as shifty and is way stronger. He caught a TD in the 2009
    game in NY. I'm pretty sure he can do the salsa. He did the Michael
    Jackson against GB in 2010.



    -Their defense is a Smitty/BVG clone. 4-3 base. Lot of cover 2. Rush
    four, five at the most, drop six or seven and play your zones. If you
    get that front four blocked, you can make some plays. There is no doubt
    in my mind we can block five and let Roddy, Julio and HD rip their DBs.



    -I see some differences in these teams though. We try to establish a
    smash mouth run game. They run a lot of shotgun delays. They play a
    little bit more man on the corners than we do. We are way more athletic.
    On probably every level except DLine. We need to take advantage of
    that. They really look shaky on STs. That might be another area we can
    exploit.



    -I am confident we can stop their run game and make Eli pass the ball. I
    noticed that he is good at sliding in the pocket and gets most of his
    yards on those plays. But every time he slides, he slides right. Put Abe
    at LDE or run a delayed blitz on that side with WillyMo and we can shut
    that BS down in a hurry. I think one of them guys can bushwhack him on
    that side like Chauncey did in his rookie year.



    -If it were me I would no huddle their defense every time they get the
    wrong DLine on the field. When DAL went no huddle in the third, their
    Dline got gassed and disappeared. They sub a lot. We could gash some of
    their units with the run and others with the pass. Think BAL 2010 or TEN
    2011. Please run some Inspector Gadget plays on em like Andy Reid did
    on us in PHI last year. Catch their pass rushers biting on junk. Go
    smash mouth with Turner in the second half, then hit Julio or Roddy on
    play action to end the game.



    We went up there in 2009 and forced an overtime. Even after terrible
    execution. If we execute for two quarters we will lose. If we execute
    for three quarters we can beat em in a close game. If we execute for
    four quarters we will blow em out. Trust me.


    Let's hear it boys....

  • #2
    Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

    [quote user="Roosevelt"]


    Posted Today, 02:21 PM




    I just reviewed the
    NFLN Replay of the DAL at NYG Week 17 game. Two division rivals who know
    each other, sparring off in a winner takes the division and a #4 seed,
    loser goes home game. The NYG take the division with a 9-7 record. Here
    are my thoughts after watching this game:



    -In watching this game I saw several players that should have Falcon
    uniforms on. I had Hynoski in my 2011 mock draft. Looks like he might
    end up being a solid FB. Now we have to deal with Ovie's injury and
    contract demands. Many draft mockers said we should draft JPP. Most
    mockers said he would be a bust. Jeez. TD could have drafted Dez Bryant
    and Hakim Nicks with ONE pick each. He also could have kept Laurent
    Robinson and Boley. Wow.



    -The NYG defense was stout against run. They also picked up 6 sacks and 7
    hits on Romo. Mostly with a four man rush. They won the turnover battle
    2/0.



    -Their offense put up 31 points and over 400 yards. They couldn't really
    run the ball but their Oline shut down every thing DAL threw at em in
    the passing game. Eli stayed clean and put up 300+. They won the
    explosive play battle 6/2.



    -The CowGirls made hella mistakes. Missed tackles, bad angles, muffs,
    penalties, overthrows, missed sacks, you name it.They looked like
    keystone Cowboys. Kinda like we did against CHI, SEA, GB, NO1, HOU and
    TB1. That's what killed em.



    -I couldn't believe how similar the Giants are to the Falcons on both
    offense and defense. The passing game is almost identical. A lot of
    short drops with quick slants, curls, ins and outs. EmDiggy might have
    been right though. I think we might be a little more vertical than them.
    We run a lot more, flies, posts and corners. Gotta check the YIA.



    -Call me crazy but Eric Weems looks like Cruz. I still think buddy could
    get to that level. Can we please throw him some balls? He is just as
    fast, just as shifty and is way stronger. He caught a TD in the 2009
    game in NY. I'm pretty sure he can do the salsa. He did the Michael
    Jackson against GB in 2010.



    -Their defense is a Smitty/BVG clone. 4-3 base. Lot of cover 2. Rush
    four, five at the most, drop six or seven and play your zones. If you
    get that front four blocked, you can make some plays. There is no doubt
    in my mind we can block five and let Roddy, Julio and HD rip their DBs.



    -I see some differences in these teams though. We try to establish a
    smash mouth run game. They run a lot of shotgun delays. They play a
    little bit more man on the corners than we do. We are way more athletic.
    On probably every level except DLine. We need to take advantage of
    that. They really look shaky on STs. That might be another area we can
    exploit.



    -I am confident we can stop their run game and make Eli pass the ball. I
    noticed that he is good at sliding in the pocket and gets most of his
    yards on those plays. But every time he slides, he slides right. Put Abe
    at LDE or run a delayed blitz on that side with WillyMo and we can shut
    that BS down in a hurry. I think one of them guys can bushwhack him on
    that side like Chauncey did in his rookie year.



    -If it were me I would no huddle their defense every time they get the
    wrong DLine on the field. When DAL went no huddle in the third, their
    Dline got gassed and disappeared. They sub a lot. We could gash some of
    their units with the run and others with the pass. Think BAL 2010 or TEN
    2011. Please run some Inspector Gadget plays on em like Andy Reid did
    on us in PHI last year. Catch their pass rushers biting on junk. Go
    smash mouth with Turner in the second half, then hit Julio or Roddy on
    play action to end the game.



    We went up there in 2009 and forced an overtime. Even after terrible
    execution. If we execute for two quarters we will lose. If we execute
    for three quarters we can beat em in a close game. If we execute for
    four quarters we will blow em out. Trust me.


    Let's hear it boys....
    [/quote]

    i read that post too on their boards...their boards are much more fan friendly but not even close to the football smarts that people have on this board.

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    • #3
      Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

      Yea, effectively they're nice homers.

      They're ignoring all the good things we do (which is several) when trying to analyse, and cherry picking the negative aspects of our game.

      It's understandable, it's a subconscious sign of being worried.

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      • #4
        Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

        [quote user="Roosevelt"]


        Posted Today, 02:21 PM




        I just reviewed the
        NFLN Replay of the DAL at NYG Week 17 game. Two division rivals who know
        each other, sparring off in a winner takes the division and a #4 seed,
        loser goes home game. The NYG take the division with a 9-7 record. Here
        are my thoughts after watching this game:



        -In watching this game I saw several players that should have Falcon
        uniforms on. I had Hynoski in my 2011 mock draft. Looks like he might
        end up being a solid FB. Now we have to deal with Ovie's injury and
        contract demands. Many draft mockers said we should draft JPP. Most
        mockers said he would be a bust. Jeez. TD could have drafted Dez Bryant
        and Hakim Nicks with ONE pick each. He also could have kept Laurent
        Robinson and Boley. Wow.



        -The NYG defense was stout against run. They also picked up 6 sacks and 7
        hits on Romo. Mostly with a four man rush. They won the turnover battle
        2/0.



        -Their offense put up 31 points and over 400 yards. They couldn't really
        run the ball but their Oline shut down every thing DAL threw at em in
        the passing game. Eli stayed clean and put up 300+. They won the
        explosive play battle 6/2.



        -The CowGirls made hella mistakes. Missed tackles, bad angles, muffs,
        penalties, overthrows, missed sacks, you name it.They looked like
        keystone Cowboys. Kinda like we did against CHI, SEA, GB, NO1, HOU and
        TB1. That's what killed em.



        -I couldn't believe how similar the Giants are to the Falcons on both
        offense and defense. The passing game is almost identical. A lot of
        short drops with quick slants, curls, ins and outs. EmDiggy might have
        been right though. I think we might be a little more vertical than them.
        We run a lot more, flies, posts and corners. Gotta check the YIA.



        -Call me crazy but Eric Weems looks like Cruz. I still think buddy could
        get to that level. Can we please throw him some balls? He is just as
        fast, just as shifty and is way stronger. He caught a TD in the 2009
        game in NY. I'm pretty sure he can do the salsa. He did the Michael
        Jackson against GB in 2010.



        -Their defense is a Smitty/BVG clone. 4-3 base. Lot of cover 2. Rush
        four, five at the most, drop six or seven and play your zones. If you
        get that front four blocked, you can make some plays. There is no doubt
        in my mind we can block five and let Roddy, Julio and HD rip their DBs.



        -I see some differences in these teams though. We try to establish a
        smash mouth run game. They run a lot of shotgun delays. They play a
        little bit more man on the corners than we do. We are way more athletic.
        On probably every level except DLine. We need to take advantage of
        that. They really look shaky on STs. That might be another area we can
        exploit.



        -I am confident we can stop their run game and make Eli pass the ball. I
        noticed that he is good at sliding in the pocket and gets most of his
        yards on those plays. But every time he slides, he slides right. Put Abe
        at LDE or run a delayed blitz on that side with WillyMo and we can shut
        that BS down in a hurry. I think one of them guys can bushwhack him on
        that side like Chauncey did in his rookie year.



        -If it were me I would no huddle their defense every time they get the
        wrong DLine on the field. When DAL went no huddle in the third, their
        Dline got gassed and disappeared. They sub a lot. We could gash some of
        their units with the run and others with the pass. Think BAL 2010 or TEN
        2011. Please run some Inspector Gadget plays on em like Andy Reid did
        on us in PHI last year. Catch their pass rushers biting on junk. Go
        smash mouth with Turner in the second half, then hit Julio or Roddy on
        play action to end the game.



        We went up there in 2009 and forced an overtime. Even after terrible
        execution. If we execute for two quarters we will lose. If we execute
        for three quarters we can beat em in a close game. If we execute for
        four quarters we will blow em out. Trust me.


        Let's hear it boys....
        [/quote]
        I think the teams matchup very even. Who ever wins the turnover battle wins a close one like 27-24 type game
        Football has been very, very good to us.
        After losing seasons 2013-15, the giants put up 11 wins in 16.. they are on way Back
        But for now we can console ourselves with this fact-

        # of Super Bowl victories since 1985:

        1-Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, New Orleans, Seattle
        2-Washington, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
        3-San Francisco, Dallas, Denver
        4-New York Giants!!!
        5-NE
        Let's make it 5 in 2016 so we can be on a LINE NE again!!!

        ***Stat provided by "Schloss22"***

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        • #5
          Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

          Falcons fans are morons if they think they are more vertical than us. That was the one game where we utilized RBs, FBs and TEs. The first Dallas game as well. Dallas struggles with out short passing game but there is no way Atlanta and Matty Checkdown is more vertical than us.

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          • #6
            Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

            I stopped fighting my inner demons. We're on the same side now.

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            • #7
              Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

              The defense started taking off the mask, the cape, and the ankle weights in that Cowboys game.

              Good luck to the Falcons... muahahahaha...

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              • #8
                Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

                And lol @ these idiots comparing Eric Weems to Cruz. The same Eric Weems who has 205 yds and 2 TDs in 5 years. Victor Cruz had more yards and the same amount of TDs in the last 2 games of this season.

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                • #9
                  Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

                  Atlanta, in general, is a horrible sports town. At least for pro sports anyway. The Braves would have thousands of empty seats for playoff games, when the Hawks are good they don't draw huge crowds, a Falcon fan on here said there was no wait for season tickets for the football team.

                  this guys whole scouting report was based off of one game. According to him Bear Pascoe is our play making TE

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                  • #10
                    Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

                    [quote user="TrueBlue07"]Atlanta, in general, is a horrible sports town.* At least for pro sports anyway. The Braves would have thousands of empty seats for playoff games, when the Hawks are good they don't draw huge crowds, a Falcon fan on here said there was no wait for season tickets for the football team.

                    this guys whole scouting report was based off of one game.* According to him Bear Pascoe is our play making TE
                    [/quote]

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                    • #11
                      Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

                      [quote user="Roosevelt"]


                      Posted Today, 02:21 PM




                      I just reviewed the
                      NFLN Replay of the DAL at NYG Week 17 game. Two division rivals who know
                      each other, sparring off in a winner takes the division and a #4 seed,
                      loser goes home game. The NYG take the division with a 9-7 record. Here
                      are my thoughts after watching this game:



                      -In watching this game I saw several players that should have Falcon
                      uniforms on. I had Hynoski in my 2011 mock draft. Looks like he might
                      end up being a solid FB. Now we have to deal with Ovie's injury and
                      contract demands. Many draft mockers said we should draft JPP. Most
                      mockers said he would be a bust. Jeez. TD could have drafted Dez Bryant
                      and Hakim Nicks with ONE pick each. He also could have kept Laurent
                      Robinson and Boley. Wow.



                      -The NYG defense was stout against run. They also picked up 6 sacks and 7
                      hits on Romo. Mostly with a four man rush. They won the turnover battle
                      2/0.



                      -Their offense put up 31 points and over 400 yards. They couldn't really
                      run the ball but their Oline shut down every thing DAL threw at em in
                      the passing game. Eli stayed clean and put up 300+. They won the
                      explosive play battle 6/2.



                      -The CowGirls made hella mistakes. Missed tackles, bad angles, muffs,
                      penalties, overthrows, missed sacks, you name it.They looked like
                      keystone Cowboys. Kinda like we did against CHI, SEA, GB, NO1, HOU and
                      TB1. That's what killed em.



                      -I couldn't believe how similar the Giants are to the Falcons on both
                      offense and defense. The passing game is almost identical. A lot of
                      short drops with quick slants, curls, ins and outs. EmDiggy might have
                      been right though. I think we might be a little more vertical than them.
                      We run a lot more, flies, posts and corners. Gotta check the YIA.



                      -Call me crazy but Eric Weems looks like Cruz. I still think buddy could
                      get to that level. Can we please throw him some balls? He is just as
                      fast, just as shifty and is way stronger. He caught a TD in the 2009
                      game in NY. I'm pretty sure he can do the salsa. He did the Michael
                      Jackson against GB in 2010.



                      -Their defense is a Smitty/BVG clone. 4-3 base. Lot of cover 2. Rush
                      four, five at the most, drop six or seven and play your zones. If you
                      get that front four blocked, you can make some plays. There is no doubt
                      in my mind we can block five and let Roddy, Julio and HD rip their DBs.



                      -I see some differences in these teams though. We try to establish a
                      smash mouth run game. They run a lot of shotgun delays. They play a
                      little bit more man on the corners than we do. We are way more athletic.
                      On probably every level except DLine. We need to take advantage of
                      that. They really look shaky on STs. That might be another area we can
                      exploit.



                      -I am confident we can stop their run game and make Eli pass the ball. I
                      noticed that he is good at sliding in the pocket and gets most of his
                      yards on those plays. But every time he slides, he slides right. Put Abe
                      at LDE or run a delayed blitz on that side with WillyMo and we can shut
                      that BS down in a hurry. I think one of them guys can bushwhack him on
                      that side like Chauncey did in his rookie year.



                      -If it were me I would no huddle their defense every time they get the
                      wrong DLine on the field. When DAL went no huddle in the third, their
                      Dline got gassed and disappeared. They sub a lot. We could gash some of
                      their units with the run and others with the pass. Think BAL 2010 or TEN
                      2011. Please run some Inspector Gadget plays on em like Andy Reid did
                      on us in PHI last year. Catch their pass rushers biting on junk. Go
                      smash mouth with Turner in the second half, then hit Julio or Roddy on
                      play action to end the game.



                      We went up there in 2009 and forced an overtime. Even after terrible
                      execution. If we execute for two quarters we will lose. If we execute
                      for three quarters we can beat em in a close game. If we execute for
                      four quarters we will blow em out. Trust me.


                      Let's hear it boys....
                      [/quote]

                      High scoring game. For you all Julio is the X factor and establishing the run. Webster play good against good corners. I think he will limit R Whites effectiveness substantially.

                      We haven't run effectively all year long. We usually pass to set up the run. If you stop are running game we can still put up points. You all have no answer for Cruz & Nicks. I keep hearing about Grimes and an underrated secondary. Man, everybody in that secondary's name is toast come 1:00pm Sunday.

                      If we can bring pressure with 4 we win BIG, If we can't stop the run we lose. IMO I think we need to blitz Ryan. I watched this cat eat teams alive that try to just rush 4; though you ain't seen a front 4 like ours yet.
                      Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                      http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                      • #12
                        Re: Falcon's fan perspective - talk to me

                        [quote user="BallinNY"][quote user="TrueBlue07"]Atlanta, in general, is a horrible sports town. At least for pro sports anyway. The Braves would have thousands of empty seats for playoff games, when the Hawks are good they don't draw huge crowds, a Falcon fan on here said there was no wait for season tickets for the football team.

                        this guys whole scouting report was based off of one game. According to him Bear Pascoe is our play making TE
                        [/quote]

                        [/quote]


                        Yes, I am serious, "according to him" =/= reality though lol

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