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  • Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
    Am I the only guy that had Le'Veon Bell on my fantasy team? That's right, I picked Bel over the great Peyton Hillis.
    probably because hillis was slow.

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    • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
      probably because hillis was slow.
      Exactly.

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      • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
        As bad as our Oline was in 2013, Ben's was worse.
        Not even close to being true.

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        • Originally posted by Drez View Post
          Not even close to being true.
          You have no clue if that is what you're claiming. Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line was worse than ours. The fact that Ben is so mobile and improvises so well helps mask that.

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          • Originally posted by Drez View Post
            Not even close to being true.

            You and your stats......nobody listens to those ******bags at PFF. Their numbers are all made up I hear.

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            • Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
              You and your stats......nobody listens to those ******bags at PFF. Their numbers are all made up I hear.
              I'm not the biggest fan of their rating system, but they do give you a pretty good idea of what's going on.

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              • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                You have no clue if that is what you're claiming. Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line was worse than ours. The fact that Ben is so mobile and improvises so well helps mask that.
                Except that mobile QBs tend to absorb more sacks and take more pressures because they hold onto the ball longer.

                29. New York Giants (11th)
                PB: 31st, RB: 16th, PEN: 4th

                Stud: In good news for the G-Men, rookie Justin Pugh (+7.1) got better and better as the season went on. Derided by many as something of a reach and with questions as to whether he can hold up at tackle, he was the biggest success story in a bad year for the Giants.

                Dud: He’s been kicked around every position but center in his time as a Giant, but David Diehl (-26.5) really didn’t take to life at right guard. He earned this grade despite missing five games and at this point just can’t handle better athletes lining up opposite him.

                Analysis: Injuries didn’t help, with the loss of David Bass seeing Kevin Boothe move to center where he would struggle. That created all sorts of shuffling and was further compounded by Chris Snee having his season ended after 188 snaps. Throw in Will Beatty responding to getting paid with a huge drop off from his 2012 season and you have the perfect storm. A once proud unit is now a major question mark.


                18. Pittsburgh Steelers (25th)
                PB: 12th, RB: 24th, PEN: 14th

                Stud: We expected to be writing about another guard here but it quietly flew under the radar just how well Ramon Foster (+13.2) played. He defines the solid-but-not-spectacular type.

                Dud: He was benched but before that Mike Adams (-7.3) gave plenty of reasons as to why he would be. A poor pass protector on a line where the QB likes having a bit of time to operate. Far from ideal.

                Analysis: Losing Maurkice Pouncey eight snaps into the year was a blow and while Fernando Velasco tried to replace him, there was a drop off. A shame because both guards played well with the team happy to get 963 snaps out of David DeCastro. He endured a rough start to the second half of the year, but outside of that his top-end ability sets him apart from all the linemen on this team. The work of Kelvin Beachum was a pleasant surprise that will give the personnel people plenty to think about for 2014.


                https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ne-rankings/2/

                Yeah, I have no clue.

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                • I think if i created a thread about which toilet paper Eli mainning prefers it would still get 20+ pages. I forgot that whenever Eli's name is attached to a thread it automatically blows up lol.

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                  • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                    Not even close to being true.
                    im sorry but his claim was laughable.

                    that OL has 1rst and 2nd rd picks up and down the line.

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                    • Originally posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
                      You have no clue if that is what you're claiming. Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line was worse than ours. The fact that Ben is so mobile and improvises so well helps mask that.
                      so incredibly wrong based on what i've seen, read, and heard.

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                      • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                        Except that mobile QBs tend to absorb more sacks and take more pressures because they hold onto the ball longer.

                        29. New York Giants (11th)
                        PB: 31st, RB: 16th, PEN: 4th

                        Stud: In good news for the G-Men, rookie Justin Pugh (+7.1) got better and better as the season went on. Derided by many as something of a reach and with questions as to whether he can hold up at tackle, he was the biggest success story in a bad year for the Giants.

                        Dud: He’s been kicked around every position but center in his time as a Giant, but David Diehl (-26.5) really didn’t take to life at right guard. He earned this grade despite missing five games and at this point just can’t handle better athletes lining up opposite him.

                        Analysis: Injuries didn’t help, with the loss of David Bass seeing Kevin Boothe move to center where he would struggle. That created all sorts of shuffling and was further compounded by Chris Snee having his season ended after 188 snaps. Throw in Will Beatty responding to getting paid with a huge drop off from his 2012 season and you have the perfect storm. A once proud unit is now a major question mark.


                        18. Pittsburgh Steelers (25th)
                        PB: 12th, RB: 24th, PEN: 14th

                        Stud: We expected to be writing about another guard here but it quietly flew under the radar just how well Ramon Foster (+13.2) played. He defines the solid-but-not-spectacular type.

                        Dud: He was benched but before that Mike Adams (-7.3) gave plenty of reasons as to why he would be. A poor pass protector on a line where the QB likes having a bit of time to operate. Far from ideal.

                        Analysis: Losing Maurkice Pouncey eight snaps into the year was a blow and while Fernando Velasco tried to replace him, there was a drop off. A shame because both guards played well with the team happy to get 963 snaps out of David DeCastro. He endured a rough start to the second half of the year, but outside of that his top-end ability sets him apart from all the linemen on this team. The work of Kelvin Beachum was a pleasant surprise that will give the personnel people plenty to think about for 2014.


                        https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ne-rankings/2/

                        Yeah, I have no clue.
                        thank you for the info. so funny how ppl prop up ben, well not people, a few postters wit an agenda i guess would be more accurate.

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                        • Originally posted by Harooni View Post
                          You just showed a clip; of a qb doing extras and taking care of the football wich Eli didn't do. Eli can run pretty well but hardly does it. Brady shows why he is a hightech player. He hardly makes stupid mistakes and knows that he has another down to work with.

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                          • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                            Not even close to being true.
                            There might be one other person here that watches the same or more Steelers games than I do. And that's not you.
                            http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
                            http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
                            http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

                            Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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                            • Redskins fans won't want to read that PFF oline rankings article. 3rd best in league. "Analysis: This ranking won’t please many Redskins fans who see the line as the root of their problems. The truth is the Shanahans had the zone blocking scheme working perfectly with huge cutback lanes regularly there for their backs to work with. Much is made of the hits Robert Griffin III took as if every single one of them must be the responsibility of the line. Well we charged RGIII himself with 10 of those sacks (more than any other player on the team) as the team gave whoever was quarterback ample time to get the job done. The big question now is what Jay Gruden intends for this line and whether he’ll move to a more power based scheme that could put a number of jobs on the line."

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                              • Originally posted by Diamondring View Post
                                You just showed a clip; of a qb doing extras and taking care of the football wich Eli didn't do. Eli can run pretty well but hardly does it. Brady shows why he is a hightech player. He hardly makes stupid mistakes and knows that he has another down to work with.
                                Maybe if he took some chances they would have won.
                                Engage brain before speaking.

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