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  • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
    There might be one other person here that watches the same or more Steelers games than I do. And that's not you.
    How many Steelers games do you watch? How many Giants games do you watch?
    Engage brain before speaking.

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    • Originally posted by Drez View Post
      Not even close to being true.
      Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
      im sorry but his claim was laughable.

      that OL has 1rst and 2nd rd picks up and down the line.
      Except showing that the Steelers front office acknowledged Ben getting killed year in and year out, this means what?
      http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
      http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
      http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

      Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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      • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
        Except showing that the Steelers front office acknowledged Ben getting killed year in and year out, this means what?

        It means they addressed their issues in the draft and the Steelers had a better OL than the Giants.

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        • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
          Except showing that the Steelers front office acknowledged Ben getting killed year in and year out, this means what?
          It means that our OL was far worse than theirs, particularly in pass pro. We had a slightly better run blocking, but significantly worse pass protection.

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          • Originally posted by giantsfan420 View Post
            thank you for the info. so funny how ppl prop up ben, well not people, a few postters wit an agenda i guess would be more accurate.
            Originally posted by Sarcasman View Post
            It means they addressed their issues in the draft and the Steelers had a better OL than the Giants.
            They were definitely better, but by a very small amount. Injuries have been a factor also. Maybe in a couple years those picks will pay dividends, but certainly not now. Remember Guy Whimper? He started a bunch of games.
            http://boards.giants.com/showthread....est-game/page6
            http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2554_A_brief,_fact-filled_history_of_the_NFL_passing_game.html
            http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8732732/is-new-york-giants-qb-eli-manning-worthy-hall-fame-espn-magazine

            Entire Team Let Eli down today - NYG4l

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            • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
              They were definitely better, but by a very small amount. Injuries have been a factor also. Maybe in a couple years those picks will pay dividends, but certainly not now. Remember Guy Whimper? He started a bunch of games.
              By small amount you mean 19 spots?

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              • Ben was sacked 42 times to Eli's 39, and I doubt anyone would argue he is less mobile than Eli... while sacks don't tell the whole story, I think it is pretty safe to say he was working behind a horrible O-line as well.
                My goal had been to win a championship, work toward the Hall of Fame, have my jersey retired by the team and I`d go in as a lifelong New York Giant, but I`m now resigned to the fact that this won`t happen. -- Michael Strahan, just when you think you're down...

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                • Originally posted by brad View Post
                  Ben was sacked 42 times to Eli's 39, and I doubt anyone would argue he is less mobile than Eli... while sacks don't tell the whole story, I think it is pretty safe to say he was working behind a horrible O-line as well.
                  He was working behind a line that rated out as being significantly better in pass pro than ours. Sacks tell very little of the story.

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                  • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
                    They were definitely better, but by a very small amount. Injuries have been a factor also. Maybe in a couple years those picks will pay dividends, but certainly not now. Remember Guy Whimper? He started a bunch of games.

                    Statistically, they've already paid off. You saw the stats, Drez posted them. Do you need a link to his post or something?

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                    • Originally posted by 9GMEN14 View Post
                      Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh9IyF9YV18

                      Near the end it says eli's skillset is ideal for a west coast offense.
                      Eli is going to have a monster year.....if Reese does his job and rebuilds the line.
                      "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                      "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                      • Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
                        Eli is going to have a monster year.....if Reese does his job and rebuilds the line.
                        hope so...
                        he played like **** regardless of the Oline this season....
                        "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
                        You couldn't be more full of **** if you were break dancing in a Port-a-Potty.......Kruunch

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                        • Originally posted by gumby74 View Post
                          There might be one other person here that watches the same or more Steelers games than I do. And that's not you.
                          so? i take it you watch giants games and your plenty wrong on several aspects related to them.

                          Pitt's OL was better, markedly even, than our OL.

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                          • Originally posted by Drez View Post
                            By small amount you mean 19 spots?
                            lol

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                            • Originally posted by GameTime View Post
                              hope so...
                              he played like **** regardless of the Oline this season....
                              Agreed....but he didn't have a choice. For the first 6 games, the entire team was like a flaming bag of dog crap. It sucked that he had to try to put his team on his back again, like 2011.

                              The major difference was that the team was 2 years older and more run down than in 2011. His biggest passing weapon, Nicks, was a basket case this year. His blindside protector, Beatty, had an atrocious season. The defense's biggest star, JPP, was a shadow of himself. Reese let a very good tight end walk, and replaced him with a guy that couldn't block to save his life. The interior of the line was weak and porous, their best lineman was a rookie. They went through 4 starting runningbacks, until they were literally signing guys off the street, like Hillis.

                              Everyone has beaten this topic to death, so the only thing I'll say is that Eli had a bad season, and I can totally understand how that happened.

                              Sounds to me like McAdoo is going to take an extremely detailed look at this team, and rebuild the offense from the ground up based on what he has to work with.....and that's exactly what he'll need to do given the the half-*** job our GM has done over the past several years.
                              Last edited by joemorrisforprez; 01-21-2014, 12:14 AM.
                              "I like linebackers. I collect 'em. You can't have too many good ones." - Bill Parcells

                              "Name the starting linebackers from 2007." - Jerry Reese

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                              • Originally posted by joemorrisforprez View Post
                                Agreed....but he didn't have a choice. For the first 6 games, the entire team was like a flaming bag of dog crap. It sucked that he had to try to put his team on his back again, like 2011.

                                The major difference was that the team was 2 years older and more run down than in 2011.

                                Everyone has beaten this topic to death, so the only thing I'll say is that Eli had a bad season, and I can totally understand how that happened.
                                hear hear, well said.

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