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  • Anyone who thinks eli will not flourish in in a west coast offense....

    Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh9IyF9YV18

    Near the end it says eli's skillset is ideal for a west coast offense.

  • #2
    Maybe so so lets see what will happen in a quicker type offense. Yet even though he has the skills to run for yardage, he hardly does it and seems to not know that he may have to run more when the talent around him has decreased like last year.

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    • #3
      I saw some of the quicker playcalling during the game in Detroit, and actually it looked like Eli was doing well with it. We'll see how it goes.
      Pluck 'Em Eagles Featherless!

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      • #4
        The last comment, "Given time by his offensive line, this QB will pick NFL defenses apart" ...says it all!

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        • #5
          We all hope that will be the case.
          “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” MB Rule # 1

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          • #6
            Flourish? Probably not.

            West Coast relies a lot on option routes, something this current personnel is not very good at.

            We should see an improved offense with the uptempo style and mid range passing, but I doubt "flourish".

            I'd settle for "don't suck".

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            • #7
              Throws a very catchable ball? Not if its a screen....
              Everyone has the right to be stupid. Some just abuse the privilege.

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              • #8
                I don't think he would flourish at all

                WC offense calls for touch pass skills

                Eli .... in his 10 year career has never shown the ability to throw a nice touch pass

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                • #9
                  GB doesn't exactly run a west coast offense.

                  Rodgers really tries to avoid throwing to the middle of the field.

                  He throws mostly outside. Back shoulder throws in particular.

                  Then a lot of quick dump off type throws to his backs and Cobb

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 9GMEN14 View Post
                    Watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh9IyF9YV18

                    Near the end it says eli's skillset is ideal for a west coast offense.
                    He'd flourish in any offense that allows him more then 4 seconds to pass
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                      He'd flourish in any offense that allows him more then 4 seconds to pass
                      That holds true for pretty much any QB, but Eli, even when he has had more than ample time, has never been a model of accuracy.

                      I dont think he would do particularly well in a WC offense because he seems to falter much of the time when throwing shorter passes.
                      The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd - Bertrand Russell

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                      • #12
                        This new offense is not being brought in to "fit" Eli. It's being installed to change what is widely recognized as a stale, predictable scheme. Whether Eli can benefit from it, will be entirely on him. If he doesn't, another QB will. If Eli "thrives" in it, all the better. As some have pointed out. All of our QB's will be drilling on it, and that levels the playing field with regards to who it fits, as each will have a shot at demonstrating how well they perform in it. If Eli rises to the top, then he's THE guy, if he fails, then he won't be.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by miked1958 View Post
                          He'd flourish in any offense that allows him more then 4 seconds to pass
                          He should retire then because on average QB's get a 3 count before they need to deliver the ball.
                          Because of all of the effort and examination being poured into these predictions, the draft is a robust market that, in the aggregate, does a good job of sorting prospects from top to bottom.1 Yet despite so many people trying to “beat the market,” no single actor can do it consistently. Abnormal returns are likely due to luck, not skill. But that hasn’t stopped NFL executives from behaving with the confidence of traders.

                          http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...eat-the-draft/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Razur View Post
                            This new offense is not being brought in to "fit" Eli. It's being installed to change what is widely recognized as a stale, predictable scheme. Whether Eli can benefit from it, will be entirely on him. If he doesn't, another QB will. If Eli "thrives" in it, all the better. As some have pointed out. All of our QB's will be drilling on it, and that levels the playing field with regards to who it fits, as each will have a shot at demonstrating how well they perform in it. If Eli rises to the top, then he's THE guy, if he fails, then he won't be.
                            Regarding your last point, even if he falters, Eli will still be the guy. He has been faltering for years, and has never had to look over his shoulder
                            The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd - Bertrand Russell

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Razur View Post
                              This new offense is not being brought in to "fit" Eli. It's being installed to change what is widely recognized as a stale, predictable scheme. Whether Eli can benefit from it, will be entirely on him. If he doesn't, another QB will. If Eli "thrives" in it, all the better. As some have pointed out. All of our QB's will be drilling on it, and that levels the playing field with regards to who it fits, as each will have a shot at demonstrating how well they perform in it. If Eli rises to the top, then he's THE guy, if he fails, then he won't be.
                              Football is a predictable sport and the defense can tell if the play is going to be a run or pass by how the O-line blocks. You have pass blocks and run blocks etc. A qb who has a hard time throwing some passes can be the reason why the offense is predictable by limiting the different kinds of throws that might be in a playbook. If a qb has a hard time throwing some passes, some plays can be taken out of the playbook since the qb doesn't have the ability to us those plays. The same can be true when the offense doesn't have a good amount of different players with more than one skill like a te who can block and catch or a back who can run well and block. How about a fb who can block and catch and so on.

                              When I study football plays, the OC had to be like a gm. His plays needed certain players who can do certain things and if those players aren't able to meet the reqyirements, then don't see the field that much.

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