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  • Originally posted by rebelfan1966 View Post
    Maybe it's just indigestion, but I expect Nicks to have a big year next season. I don't know if it will be for the Giants, I just think he has a lot to prove after a dismal 2013 and will use next season to serve notice that he is not washed up.
    Agree.

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    • Originally posted by rebelfan1966 View Post
      Maybe it's just indigestion, but I expect Nicks to have a big year next season. I don't know if it will be for the Giants, I just think he has a lot to prove after a dismal 2013 and will use next season to serve notice that he is not washed up.
      Me too.
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      • Originally posted by speedman View Post
        I don't buy that they knew this when they signed Cruz. If that were the case they would have traded him this year. Yesterday I said he would get at least 6 mil a year.
        So 4 years $36M (relatively speaking of course)

        Personally, I think that's right in range, more or less.

        Nicks is either going to get much more, or much less on a shorter "prove it" contract. My money says more.

        And I did use shorthand on the Cruz thing; what I am specifically saying is that the Giants assumed that one of 2 things would happen with Nicks in 2013: he would get hurt, or he would be a stud. If he was a stud this year, then there would have been no connection with Cruz,other than you had to pay Nicks more (a very good problem indeed). If he got hurt, then you move on, with Cruz in the pocket.


        And don't get me wrong: I am not in that "he quit on the Giants camp" - that makes no sense to me in any way, shape or form. But I do believe that circumstances will likely lead him to a new team, even if I would rather it did not.
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        • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
          So 4 years $36M (relatively speaking of course)

          Personally, I think that's right in range, more or less.

          Is that what you think he gets?
          I think he'll get something like 3 years, $18MM with about half guaranteed.
          Probably from either NE or Carolina.
          Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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          • Originally posted by SUPERBOWL/BOUND/GIANTS View Post
            where is all this information about TC not liking Nicks and not wanting him back?
            Don't waste your time looking
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            • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
              I think he'll get something like 3 years, $18MM with about half guaranteed.
              Probably from either NE or Carolina.

              So you are saying 3 million a year guaranteed? Seems low, doesn't it?
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              • Originally posted by RoanokeFan View Post
                Don't waste your time looking
                Well lets see.
                -Benching him in the biggest game of the season for no legitimate reason.
                -Accusing him publicly of not trying for balls thrown to him.
                -Commenting publicly that Nicks didn't "fight to play" in the Dallas game.
                -Oh and the mysterious team sources that ran to the media with stories of Nicks being late for meetings and missing treatments.
                - And just generally allowing Nicks to be villainized publicly without defending one of his players.

                Plenty of reasons for Hakeem Nicks to feel wanted in New York.
                Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
                  So you are saying 3 million a year guaranteed? Seems low, doesn't it?
                  $9MM guaranteed. However they word it.
                  His injury history will keep his value down. Although his willingness to play hurt will help him.
                  Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                  • Riiiight....so it's TC's fault Nicks has been hurt every year since being signed and that he didn't score 1 TD all year in 2013....

                    Why do we have to blame one or the other? Is it possible to like both of them and just admit Nicks had a bad year and it has nothing to do with Coughlin?

                    I for one like Nicks and still respect him but my eyes tell me he's not the same player he used to be.

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                    • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                      Well lets see.
                      -Benching him in the biggest game of the season for no legitimate reason.
                      -Accusing him publicly of not trying for balls thrown to him.
                      -Commenting publicly that Nicks didn't "fight to play" in the Dallas game.
                      -Oh and the mysterious team sources that ran to the media with stories of Nicks being late for meetings and missing treatments.
                      - And just generally allowing Nicks to be villainized publicly without defending one of his players.

                      Plenty of reasons for Hakeem Nicks to feel wanted in New York.
                      you seriously think tom coughlin was the one who leaked that story about the fines to the media?

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                      • Originally posted by egyptian420 View Post
                        Riiiight....so it's TC's fault Nicks has been hurt every year since being signed and that he didn't score 1 TD all year in 2013....

                        Why do we have to blame one or the other? Is it possible to like both of them and just admit Nicks had a bad year and it has nothing to do with Coughlin?

                        I for one like Nicks and still respect him but my eyes tell me he's not the same player he used to be.
                        Nicks production had nothing to do with Tom Coughlin. It certainly was effected by a poor O line and other weaknesses on the offense. But his play was not up to par.

                        Its the treatment of Nicks both by deed and public statements from team sources, including and especially Tom Coughlin that suggest to me that Nicks is not wanted back.
                        Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                        • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                          $9MM guaranteed. However they word it.
                          His injury history will keep his value down. Although his willingness to play hurt will help him.
                          ...very strange response, but I'm on your range. And I would suggest that the history of Free Agency suggest that injuries will almost not be considered at all.

                          Can I ask anybody when the last time a WR like Nicks hit FA?
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                          • Originally posted by ELIte4MVP View Post
                            you seriously think tom coughlin was the one who leaked that story about the fines to the media?
                            No I don't. But he's responsible for everything else I listed.
                            Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                            • Originally posted by Delicreep View Post
                              ...very strange response, but I'm get your range.

                              Can I ask anybody when the last time a WR like Nicks hit FA?
                              The problem with Nicks' value in the FA market is his ability to stay healthy.
                              I can't remember the last time a WR as good as Hakeem Nicks (when healthy) hit the FA market.

                              But even though the upside is tremendous, (as we have seen) his value is mitigated by the lower body problems.
                              Admit nothing. Deny everything. Make counter accusations.

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                              • Originally posted by Morehead State View Post
                                Well lets see.
                                -Benching him in the biggest game of the season for no legitimate reason.
                                -Accusing him publicly of not trying for balls thrown to him.
                                -Commenting publicly that Nicks didn't "fight to play" in the Dallas game.
                                -Oh and the mysterious team sources that ran to the media with stories of Nicks being late for meetings and missing treatments.
                                - And just generally allowing Nicks to be villainized publicly without defending one of his players.

                                Plenty of reasons for Hakeem Nicks to feel wanted in New York.
                                Lol Tom spilled that to the media about Nicks?
                                You're reaching.
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