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    Hey everyone, Just wanted to say I think its going to be a great game between the Pack and the Giants, you guys are right the Pack do really respect the Giants and know they have to have there A game to win, the Giants are playing great ball and have the front four on the defensive line to beat the Pack. I feel the key to the game is the Giants front four againt the Packers offensive line, if they can't get to Rodgers he will light them up, people forget the Pack have won 21 out of there last 22 games. The team that beat them, the chiefs got to Rodgers with there front four and the dbs played press coverage. The Giants will be able to run the ball and the Pack will not but that won't matter unless the Giants have eigtht minute drives. The Packers haven't been able to run the ball all year consistently but Rodgers is so good it doesn't really matter. If the Giants keep the game in the 20s I think they have a great shot but if it goes into the 30s or 40s the Pack will win. I can't wait for the game and may the best team win. Any thoughts from Giants fans Scoot

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    We'll have to play our very best to stand a chance. That being said, we're peaking at the right time. Although, we still haven't played a complete 4 quarters of football yet. Our offense laid an egg in the beginning of the Atlanta game. That can't happen again.

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    • #3
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      If the Giants keep the game in the 20s I think they have a great shot but if it goes into the 30s or 40s the Pack will win.
      I've heard this logic from another Packers fan. Care to elaborate as to why you feel your chances go up as the score rises? I'm not understanding it.

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      • #4
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        [quote user="Firenugget"]
        If the Giants keep the game in the 20s I think they have a great shot but if it goes into the 30s or 40s the Pack will win.
        I've heard this logic from another Packers fan. Care to elaborate as to why you feel your chances go up as the score rises? I'm not understanding it.
        [/quote]




        A high scoring game means a shoot out with both defenses being ineffective. In this case, the Packers are far superior then we are. We have our moments. But we can't consistently keep up the pace like the Packers can. There were plenty of games and moments this year where our offense just didn't show up. You can't say the same for the Packers offense.

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        • #5
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          nice assement of the game.




          one thing that i think will be very different about this game compared to the last 2 where Giants fans are taking alot of comfort from is that by the middle of the 2nd quarter the Giants built leads which certainly helped play into the strength of our defense.




          It will be very interesting to see how this defense holds up in a closer game where taking the run game away from an offense doesn't matter at all.




          Stuffing the run against both Dallas and Atlanta gave us a distinct advantage in both games. it won't matter at all in this one.




          the most interesting factor for me will be the weather. If it turns really sour (and i don't mean just cold, i mean wind and snow), i see us as favorites, in any other scenario we're underdogs.

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          • #6
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            I agree that like most of our games against great opponents, pass rush is key. But I do think you're discounting the impact of the run game if it does get going. Just think if we put up 150+ rush yards in our first meeting, we win that game easily.

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            • #7
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              The giants score 30+ points a game 4 times this yar and never once put up 40 points.

              The Packers had 6 games where they put up 40 or more points.

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              • #8
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                I agree our front 4 is key, but I also don't buy into the whole "We won 21 of the last 22". To me, that just increases the odds that your team is due for a loss. No one stays king forever, and I don't mean that in a disrespective way.




                I think it's a common hope amongst the Giant fans that your QB will be a little rusty from the time off, whereas we should be sharp, bc our playoffs basically began against the Jets a few weeks ago, & it's been do or die for the G's ever since....




                Either way, I'm hoping for a good, competative game...

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                • #9
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                  [quote user="scoot12"]Hey everyone, Just wanted to say I think its going to be a great game between the Pack and the Giants, you guys are right the Pack do really respect the Giants and know they have to have there A game to win, the Giants are playing great ball and have the front four on the defensive line to beat the Pack. I feel the key to the game is the Giants front four againt the Packers offensive line, if they can't get to Rodgers he will light them up, people forget the Pack have won 21 out of there last 22 games. The team that beat them, the chiefs got to Rodgers with there front four and the dbs played press coverage. The Giants will be able to run the ball and the Pack will not but that won't matter unless the Giants have eigtht minute drives. The Packers haven't been able to run the ball all year consistently but Rodgers is so good it doesn't really matter. If the Giants keep the game in the 20s I think they have a great shot but if it goes into the 30s or 40s the Pack will win. I can't wait for the game and may the best team win. Any thoughts from Giants fans Scoot[/quote]




                  No one forgets that. Packers are the best team in football. 15-1 this season. But you shouldnt forget the Giants stopped the 18-0 Pats (Who had a better Offense and Defense then the Packers)4 years ago using the exact same method that has them hot right now. Not to take anything away from the Pack, but it helps when the refs are always on your side. We have been battling the refs the past 3 games.

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                  • #10
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                    [quote user="SIMMS5611"]

                    I agree our front 4 is key, but I also don't buy into the whole "We won 21 of the last 22". To me, that just increases the odds that you're team is due for a loss. No one stays king forever, and I don't mean that in a disrespective way.




                    I think it's a common hope amongst the Giant fans that your QB will be a little rusty from the time off, whereas we should be sharp, bc our playoffs basically began against the Jets a few weeks ago, & it'd been do or die for the G's ever since....




                    Either way, I'm hoping for a good, competative game...

                    [/quote]

                    The whole "due for a loss" thing is a fallacy, fwiw

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                    • #11
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                      [quote user="gumby742"]

                      [quote user="Firenugget"]
                      If the Giants keep the game in the 20s I think they have a great shot but if it goes into the 30s or 40s the Pack will win.
                      I've heard this logic from another Packers fan. Care to elaborate as to why you feel your chances go up as the score rises? I'm not understanding it.
                      [/quote]




                      A high scoring game means a shoot out with both defenses being ineffective. In this case, the Packers are far superior then we are. We have our moments. But we can't consistently keep up the pace like the Packers can. There were plenty of games and moments this year where our offense just didn't show up. You can't say the same for the Packers offense.

                      [/quote]

                      I disagree with that notion. But thanks for explaining the logic.



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                      • #12
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                        I dont think this game is getting into the 30s.

                        Defensively we need to get two things done.

                        1) We must tackle. Rogers will get his completions but we need to keep the YAC in check.

                        2) We can't let the Pack steal points at the end of the half.

                        We get those two things done and its

                        24-17 Giants.
                        My 5 year old son right before the kickoff of the Super Bowl 46: Dad, are the Giants gonna win?

                        Burier: Yes.

                        My 5 year old son right before the kickoff of Super Bowl 46: Do you promise?

                        Burier: Yes. I promise.

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                        • #13
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                          [quote user="jhamburg"][quote user="SIMMS5611"]


                          I agree our front 4 is key, but I also don't buy into the whole "We won 21 of the last 22". To me, that just increases the odds that you're team is due for a loss. No one stays king forever, and I don't mean that in a disrespective way.




                          I think it's a common hope amongst the Giant fans that your QB will be a little rusty from the time off, whereas we should be sharp, bc our playoffs basically began against the Jets a few weeks ago, & it'd been do or die for the G's ever since....




                          Either way, I'm hoping for a good, competative game...




                          [/quote] The whole "due for a loss" thing is a fallacy, fwiw[/quote]







                          Sorry, I buy into it whole-heartedly, bc otherwise, there'd be teams 121-2, etc...ALL teams, even the best of 'em, suffer loses, whether it's from a better opponent, or by their own fault...




                          ...and I think they're due. Plus, call it Karma, call me bitter, but the last time we met, that WAS a TD by our TE, Ballard, and the fates realize the err of their ways....

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                          • #14
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                            [quote user="Firenugget"][quote user="gumby742"]

                            [quote user="Firenugget"]
                            If the Giants keep the game in the 20s I think they have a great shot but if it goes into the 30s or 40s the Pack will win.
                            I've heard this logic from another Packers fan. Care to elaborate as to why you feel your chances go up as the score rises? I'm not understanding it.
                            [/quote]




                            A high scoring game means a shoot out with both defenses being ineffective.* In this case, the Packers are far superior then we are.* We have our moments.* But we can't consistently keep up the pace like the Packers can.* There were plenty of games and moments this year where our offense just didn't show up.* You can't say the same for the Packers offense.

                            [/quote]

                            I disagree with that notion. But thanks for explaining the logic.



                            [/quote]

                            It depends on if our run game is working. Our pass game relies on high-risk/high-reward vertical passes so much, that if we get stuffed on 1st down, throw a 40 yard bomb incomplete on 2nd down, we end up with a tough 3rd and long. Most of the high-powered offenses in the league can sustain drives better since they use shorter, more reliable routes.

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                            • #15
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                              [quote user="SIMMS5611"][quote user="jhamburg"][quote user="SIMMS5611"]


                              I agree our front 4 is key, but I also don't buy into the whole "We won 21 of the last 22". To me, that just increases the odds that you're team is due for a loss. No one stays king forever, and I don't mean that in a disrespective way.




                              I think it's a common hope amongst the Giant fans that your QB will be a little rusty from the time off, whereas we should be sharp, bc our playoffs basically began against the Jets a few weeks ago, & it'd been do or die for the G's ever since....




                              Either way, I'm hoping for a good, competative game...




                              [/quote] The whole "due for a loss" thing is a fallacy, fwiw[/quote]




                              *




                              Sorry, I buy into it whole-heartedly, bc otherwise, there'd be teams 121-2, etc...ALL teams, even the best of 'em, suffer loses, whether it's from a better opponent, or by their own fault...




                              ...and I think they're due. Plus, call it Karma, call me bitter, but the last time we met, that WAS a TD by our TE, Ballard, and the fates realize the err of their ways....

                              [/quote]

                              The thing is, when a team wins 10 games in a row everyone says they're due. They win, then the next game everyone says they're due. They win again, etc... Then 7 or 8 games later, they finally lose and everyone says "see, law of averages, they were due for a loss!"

                              Obviously if a team is on a winning streak, odds are they will lose eventually, but the odds that they lose on *exactly the next game* are not higher. In fact they're probably lower, with every win.

                              Think of it this way: If you flip a coin heads 5 times in a row, is it "due" to be tails on the 6th?

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